Well, hey, if we recognize developments that harken to such a reality - say, like a coordinated Covid response - we can call it out for what it is, treason again sovereign nations. Agreements via the UN, NATO, etc. are often problematic if they infringe on the autonomy of territories under the guise of peace. One person’s peace is another’s tyranny.

Thankfully, America is too big, varied, diverse, and autonomous to easily control. So that reality trumps grand evil designs.

But I agree with your skepticism in an important sense, as it’s the alarmist who are pushing for Christian Nationalism and that I will never get behind.




When looking up “post war consensus” I found this interesting and the overall vibe not surprising considering the source…

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/05/what-happens-after-a-pandemic-or-a-war-is-over/

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One of the other things we talked about in the paper is how the Coronavirus has exposed a widespread contempt in the United States for science and scientific expertise. This is clear if you look at the messaging from political leaders in the U.S. versus those in Europe, certainly in liberal democracies in Europe. Leaders there are much more willing to follow the lead of scientific experts. Their constituents expect that and would look askance at leaders who are flagrantly disregarding the advice of scientific experts. I think that’s a difference that you see in this country. - The battlefronts of World War II and COVID-19 look very different, but long term consequences remain the constant

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