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Pilgrim #10657 Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:10 AM
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What about the rest of Gods Law ?

If not "Moral", then they must be "Immoral" Laws.

Tut, tut, tut.

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BookMark said:
What about the rest of Gods Law ?

If not "Moral", then they must be "Immoral" Laws.

Tut, tut, tut.
[Linked Image] It's amazing that you have the courage to write such things and to even make them public. drop I would have thought you were far more knowledgeble about Christ and His atonement, Mark. But that's what I get for presuming too much.

Sorry, but at this point I feel that trying to take you through redemptive history 101 would be an exercise in futility. If others care to spend time trying to explain the fundamentals of the faith to you, I wish them all the best; they'll need far more patience and time than I currently can spare. laugh

Oh.... I'm in agreement with fredman about you too. I cannot fathom how you can so denigrate Baptists but adopt a heresy that originated with them; a group of the most extreme of the lot at that. scratch1 And, to top it all of, although I suspect there is far more confusion in your mind than what we have seen here, you have gone Charis-magic/Pent-caustal too. If there is no absolute moral law, no written perpetual binding moral law, but only the "leading of the Spirit", then you must be living by extra-biblical revelation; a genuine, unadulterated, flying high, Pentecostal who lives by urges, promptings and voices? igiveup Sorry, but my Bible teaches that the Spirit always works in, through and in conjunction with the Written Word of God. When Jesus tells me that my love for Him is displayed IF I "keep His commandments", I think that it would be prudent for me to do exactly that and not rely on some ethereal "spirit" for my holiness of life.

Let me know if this "spirit" that leads you tells you to invite me to dinner. rofl [Linked Image]


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So then Pilgrim. Being led by The Spirit and not by The Law is heresy . Thats a new one on me.

Sounds like you need to learn the fundamentals of faith Pilgrim because you continue to confuse Law and Gospel,Moses and Christ. I believe you are what is known as a Neonomian.

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Sounds like you need to learn the fundamentals of faith Pilgrim because you continue to confuse Law and Gospel,Moses and Christ. I believe you are what is known as a Neonomian.
Your belief that I am a "Neonomian" is actually so far fetched it is humorous. laugh

Being "led by the Spirit" does NOT mean that the Holy Spirit guides a believer without the written, infallible, inerrant Word of God. This is one of the FUNDAMENTALS of the Christian faith, which some Charismatics and most Pentecostals deny. You have failed to answer nearly every single question posed to you about this subject since you brought up your objection to it. All you have done is post some derogatory and inflammatory remarks against the vast majority of Christians that hold to this biblical truth and the doctrine which has been defended for centuries against Antinomianism in all its forms.

You have never offered one single argument, either from the Scriptures nor from extra-biblical sources in defenses of your Antinomian position; again just pithy contentless remarks. And in this particular case, since there is no law against lying, according to your Antinomianism, then it is perfectly acceptable to lie, if the Spirit so leads you to do so? (cf. Eph 4:25; Col 3:9; Titus 1:2; Heb 6:18; Jam 3:14; 1Jh 1:6: 2:21; Rev 21:8, 27; 22:15

Lastly, and this is my final warning to you.... either restrain yourself from hijacking threads with this topic or all such attempts will be deleted and if you then insist on doing so, you will be prohibited from posting on this Board. There is already a thread started where you can blow off steam and your hot air remarks. Post them there. wink

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Here is a hypothetical situation...
Descartes is also responsible for this line of Hypothetical logic . He pointed out, when discussing how we know things that even though he thinks he sees a candle in front of him, it could be possible that there is a demon there tricking him into thinking that there is a candle, when there is really not. As a general rule, hypothetical situations are not easily given moral value solely because there is not enough information given. And, they all are stated in a way as to lean in one direction or another. Situational ethics are also as much to blame, but i would blame Decartes for situational ethics! Anyways, thats my two bits. Logic is skewed in this post-Christian era, and we, often, unfortunately, find ourselves a part of our culture without realizing it.


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