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#19454 Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:20 PM
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Is this article just another example of the Trinity Foundation's heresey hunting, or is this something that needs our attention?:

Tabletalk Rewrites the Covenant


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It is generally known that John Robbins can be a very caustic individual when he writes. And because of this he has rightly earned the many criticisms which have been voiced in this regard. HOWEVER, ignoring his demeanor, his criticisms are often justified and should be given serious consideration. In this article, which you linked to, he takes offense to TableTalk's (whoever is responsible for it) "Devotional" concerning the passage in Hebrews and more specifically to the author's view concerning the Covenant spoken of in that text. What the author believes on this issue isn't entirely clear, IMHO, but what is clear to me is that it could easily be construed as that which is being taught by the Auburnites and now many others, aka: NeoLegalism, NPP, etc.

I have to agree with Robbins in that TableTalk should have issued a correction, at least, for their statement that Peter was the head of the Church. And now this article in the February 2004 issue gives rise to another and more serious problem. Where is Ligonier Ministries going these days? Has it lost its first love and gotten on to one of those "slippery slopes" that leads to apostasy? If so, how far will it slide? The difficulty for most people, I suspect, is the reverence/respect they hold for Dr. R.C. Sproul, Sr. There can be no doubt that he has been one of the most influential theologians and speakers over the past 40+ years, and one who I too admire. But how much involvement does R.C. have nowadays with Ligonier Ministries? Has he basically handed it over to others? Well, there are lots of questions that could be asked. But needless to say, the criticism(s) which people like John Robbins have launched need to be taken seriously. People, organizations and churches do change. We shouldn't rest on what "was", but rather we should be evaluating those things which are here and now.

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I have to admit that I am not a big fan of Wilson and Auburnism (or what ever they call it).
Perhaps you cold e-mail RC Sproul's ministry about this and share their reply with us.

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Tabletalk Rewrites the Covenant [/quote]

I'm no fan of JR, that's for sure. However, it is rather in vogue to talk about "breaking the covenant" without any qualification of what that means. I do like that the TF notes question 31 of the WLC. It's my favorite question and answer in the entire document! One point Robbins, 999,999,999,999 points for all who have opposed Robbins in the past. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bananas.gif" alt="" />

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I'll let others speak regarding the assertions; but I did want to mention what I have noticed with Tabletalk this year. Until 2004, Wilkins, Schissel, Wilson were frequent contributors to the magazine / devotional. RCJR had been the editor for years. This year I have not seen any articles from the three, and RCJR is no longer the editor, although he still writes a monthly article. I don't know if the changes were for some specific reason, but they did take place.

I have always been impress with Tabletalk's daily teaching devotional. It is top notch.


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I'll let others speak regarding the assertions; but I did want to mention what I have noticed with Tabletalk this year. Until 2004, Wilkins, Schissel, Wilson were frequent contributors to the magazine / devotional. RCJR had been the editor for years. This year I have not seen any articles from the three, and RCJR is no longer the editor, although he still writes a monthly article. I don't know if the changes were for some specific reason, but they did take place.

I have always been impress with Tabletalk's daily teaching devotional. It is top notch.

Hi John,

Could be just political as opposed to theological. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />

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Ron

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I'll let others speak regarding the assertions; but I did want to mention what I have noticed with Tabletalk this year. Until 2004, Wilkins, Schissel, Wilson were frequent contributors to the magazine / devotional. RCJR had been the editor for years. This year I have not seen any articles from the three, and RCJR is no longer the editor, although he still writes a monthly article. I don't know if the changes were for some specific reason, but they did take place.

I had contacted Tabletalk last year sometime regarding some of these same issues. The one thing that was definitive was that RCJR had resigned from being editor so as to concentrate on his duties at his church.
They are sort of sympathetic to Douglas Wilson. The fact that he is no longer writing on his column is not due to the controversy, as far as I understood it. Thus, it is possible you might still see him write an article in the future. I doubt you will see Schissel's writings on there though. That's all can remember.

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