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Here's the site set up on Terri's behalf: http://www.terrisfight.net/

It has some interesting videos, etc. I didn't realize that she is NOT in the "vegetative state" that I kept hearing about in the news. Honestly it wasn't until the other day that I really got more "current" with this whole story. Now I see more clearly what the issues are.

When Terri dies some day and her husband can marry his present mistriss, the mistress had better get her living will ready and stay as healthy as she can!!

...into balancing judgment and mercy when they attempted to distill the essence of the law into the Larger Catechsim (italics mine):


Being a congregationalist (therefore holding to Savoy) I am not aware of how members of churches holding to Westminster view the degree to which one is bound by details of the Catechism. Are they binding or not? (That is not rhetorical--I really want to know the answer.) If the principles are binding, I would think WCF subscribers would be bound to value mercy over judgment in this case.

Some information and concerns about the supposed state of Terri's brain: http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co.html

Schiavo's Parents Run Out of Legal Options


Wes

Here is a thought.
Would it be right in a case like this, that her parents took matters in their own hands (not sure how they would do that but...)?
If the powers that be allow a travesty like this to happen, in the eyes of God is it right for parents to break the law?

Tom

They can't. There are police posted on the roof, and at every entrance to the hospice where she lay dying. Many have been arrested trying to bring Terri water. Not to mention, the judge denied requests to try and spoon feed Terri.. so they would be arrested if they tried to spoon feed her anything too.

This is so disgusting. I wish there was a way to impeach that awful godless judge Greer!! I also hope that it comes to light what Michael Shiavo is really doing!! This is no "right to die" case. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" />

Michele

Also on the news, they said that Terri cried on Saturday (yesterday, day before Easter) when her mother hugged her before she left. Terri knows what is going on... and she is in so much pain. I am at least glad to know that they are giving her morphine. (if that's even true...) Of course.. Michael Shiavo's lawyer claims she is "resting comfortably." What a sham!! Let him try and go without food and water for over a week and see if HE rests comfortably!! This is just awful.

Michele

I have remained detached from this issue due to lack of knowledge but it is becoming harder to ignore that someone is truly being starved to death; a starving supported by a so called husband and a judicial system mind you. This is a tragedy and I don't know how these people sleep at night while in one way or another someone dies as a result of their actions or inaction. Wow! I'm not the model husband, for sure, but I couldn't let something like this happen to my wife...even if it was at her request I would still have an immense struggle with the issue...I don't know <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />

I just recieved an e-mail from the Constitution party leader Pertoutka, I thought some here would like to read it.

The Governor and the President Have Murdered Terri Schiavo - Somebody has to say it!




Resurrection Sunday Morning, 2005

Dear Friends of the Constitutional Republic,

Yesterday, I spoke to a good friend in Florida. My friend is also my business partner and we discussed business for a few minutes. But our hearts were both heavy with the public murder of Terri Schiavo. My partner said something that caught me short and took my breath away.

He said, "Well, at least Jeb Bush tried to do something. He tried to save her life."

I felt my blood rising.

No, I told my long time friend. Then I found myself saying it a little louder. "NO!" I repeated, "He did no such thing!" What infuriated me was the realization that they (the Bushes and the media pundits) had convinced my good friend that they tried to save her life. To the contrary, I rushed to explain to him, the actions and explanations of Jeb and George Bush are the thinnest sophistry and can not be viewed as credible to any sentient person.

There is no reason to believe Governor Bush or President Bush when they say that they tried to help Terri Schiavo. In fact, they are accomplices to murder.

And - make no mistake - this is murder. Murder most foul! Murder carried out in broad daylight by a judge, a police force, the Governor of Florida, and the President of the United States.

That's right. George Bush, against whom I ran for President, has murdered Terri Schiavo.

As I stated in my open letter to both Governor Bush and President Bush, they have not only the means and the ability to save her life, but the affirmative duty to do so.

Right now, they have hidden behind the thin veil that, as executives, they are subject to the opinions of judges which they call the "rule of law" when it's convenient for them to do so. But the opinions of a state or federal judge are not the rule of law. They are merely opinions.

The Governor of Florida, by his oath of office, has an affirmative duty to uphold the law and to protect innocent life in his jurisdiction – regardless of what any judge says! Moreover, his police powers extend to the prevention of crimes, including murder. The well-publicized murder of Terri Schiavo is being carried out before him while he wrings his hands, expecting us to believe that he would stop it but he just can't.

Yes he can.

The police do not work for the judicial branch of government. They work for the executive.

And does George W. Bush really expect us to believe that he can send our sons and daughters to all corners of the world fighting "terrorists" but he can't stop the terrorist act of public execution taking place in Florida? Five years ago, on Easter Sunday Morning, the U.S. Justice Department thought they had the authority to raid a Florida home to steal Elian Gonzales from his mother's family. So, why can't they steal Terri Schiavo from those who are killing her?

When I consider these things, I ask myself why these brothers, who claim to be Christian, would not use the authority and means at their disposal to stop this terror in America.

Could it be that both brothers, while elected to executive positions, realize that it's the unelected judiciary that advances the internationalist agenda that their father spoke about (the New World Order)? Don't many of their globalist initiatives depend on the fact that we believe, falsely, that “law” is a changing, dynamic thing, and that judges, as the agents of that change, can “make” law. Could it be that while the Bush brothers and their one worlder colleagues put up a fight against the United Nations or, in this case, against a state judge, that they really don’t intend to win?

Could it all be a sham, start to finish? Could it be that they just want to look like they care about Terri Schiavo – or you – or me, or the Constitution, or America, but they don’t?

When they have us thoroughly convinced that judges can make up law, even to the extent that they can murder our daughters in front of our eyes, then they can do anything they want. They will have their new order.

Our founders recognized that all law, and liberty and government come from God. They founded our country on the presupposition that Christ is Lord. He still is Lord. He always was and always will be. He is Risen and through His Resurrection we can face tomorrow with hope. He is Sovereign. Amen.

This is murder and the Bush brothers are accomplices.

Somebody has to say it.



For God, Family, & the Republic,



Michael A. Peroutka

This is typical of the Constitutional Party. They parade around as the Christian alternative, but they are just a bunch of Theonomists who are strong on legalisms and weak on grace.

Thank you for saying it, John. You beat me to it.

Just to let you know, I wasn't judging the e-mail one way or another.
I personally don't know how much power Jeb or George Bush have.
I heard Jeb Bush say that he can't change what the courts rule.

I don't know enough about US law, but it would seem to me that what they said in the e-mail, borders on character assassination.
Can people go around calling others murderers? Especially people who have as much influence as Michael Peroutka.

Tom

Al Mohler wrote on Terri Schiavo on his blog today:

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/1320692.html

I just learned that Terri Schiavo has died.

May God be glorified in this, as in all things.