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BradJHammond #24899 Fri May 13, 2005 8:17 AM
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Brad,

Thanks for your reply. I think you said it much better than I did. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bow.gif" alt="" />

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Ephesians 5:11

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Doulos mentioned June Cleaver and Harriet "from that other TV show," but the reaction to those stereotypes has taken us to the opposite extreme: from "Father Knows Best" to father is always the biggest idiot in the house , even dumber than the family pet .
Brad,

Tom said he couldn't add anything to this, but I surely can.

I would submit a challenge to everyone... !! Mind you, I watch very little TV, but what little I do watch I have been able to observe something which disturbs me to no end. It isn't the programming I'm referring to . . . Rather, it is the commercials.

Here's the challenge... pay close attention to the commercials and focus upon how those commercials portray men. My contention is that they are portrayed as, for example, total slobs, ignorant, stupid, sexist, drunks, party-animals, inept, self-centered, heartless, irresponsible, inordinately submissive, (add your own pejorative here), etc. Granted, it is true that there are some men who could easily fill the shoes of the composite man exemplified in those commercials. But the majority of men are hardly worthy of the image being foisted, no doubt, by the feminist philosophy. The bottom line, IMHO, is that there is a massive effort to portray men as useless and expendable "things" which without a woman would inevitably fall into non-existence. [Linked Image]


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"The way to fight a woman is with your hat. Grab it and run."



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While I agree wholeheartedly about your observations regarding how men (and women) are portrayed on television and in commercials as well as all the other views you've expressed in this thread re: feminism--it's cause and effects, I have to wonder why you included the quotes at the end of your post. Was it for humor or just a negative observation against women in general? I don't want to have my feathers ruffled if there is no reason. . . <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/giggle.gif" alt="" />


Trust the past to God's mercy, the present to God's love and the future to God's providence." - St. Augustine
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I have to wonder why you included the quotes at the end of your post. Was it for humor or just a negative observation against women in general? I don't want to have my feathers ruffled if there is no reason. . .
Actually, their inclusion was for both reasons; humour and a negative observation. However, I don't see the quotes as being necessarily being negative against women, but rather an expression of the feminist philosophy in general; e.g., most feminists really believe that behind every successful man is a woman, without which men would be ultimate failures. Unfortunately this type of mentality serves to make matters worse in that they diminish the positive influence and virtues which many women, particularly godly women, have had on men over the centuries. Without doubt, whenever the truth is distorted, rarely does anything good result. (cf. Gen 3:1; et al)

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Unfortunately this type of mentality serves to make matters worse in that they diminish the positive influence and virtues which many women, particularly godly women, have had on men over the centuries.

Agreed. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />


Trust the past to God's mercy, the present to God's love and the future to God's providence." - St. Augustine
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Well there's no need to sign off just because everyone doesn't agree with you. Man if I quit every discussion where someone disagreed or didn't like what I said I'd be in trouble--I've got three kids so thats just about everything I say! I wasn't trying to pick a fight, just to mention some things that stood out with me. Read through the posts. I agree with most everything you said.

I'd like to apologize, really, if you thought for a moment I was judging you. (Did you catch the part about dragging her outside the city gate?) Heck my mother-in-law is a card carrying, bra burning, feminazi hardliner from the 60's hand fed from the same trough as Gloria and the rest of those gals. I'm married to her daughter, I'm the head of my household and we don't have any problems with the biblical idea of marriage. Which means that my wife and I can talk about anything, make desisions, and we take care of business. No problem. Her mom and I, on the other hand can talk about the weather, the flowers, the trees, occasionally cute things the kids did, and "Please pass the rolls" at supper. If things stray into childrearing, politics, or What Idiots Men Are--God help us! I guess if you've been beat up enough by it and prayed over it for years on end (ten give or take, I'll not specify) its easier to deal with.

And yeah, its pretty easy for me to sit back on my heels and spout "Oh, you should pray for them!" I guess I've been living in the sticks to long.


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doulos,

OK, thanks, I am sensitive, possible overly so, to this issue and it did seem that I was being singled out when so many others were saying the same thing. Rest assured that the Luther quote was not about you, who I consider to be a brother, but about those that compromise for the sake of "peace" with the Feminist agenda.

There is no doubt in my mind that the feminists really do "bring strife among the brothers" and the sisters also. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" />

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Started another thread about this since it seems to be a different topic.


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