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WHOA!!!
Never have come across a church like that. Where in KY was it?
It sounds like one of those Landmark Baptist churches. I would not want to join that church either. Six weeks isn't even long enough to find a church! It actually sounds quite cultic.
True godliness is a sincere feeling which loves God as Father as much as it fears and reverences Him as Lord, embraces His righteousness, and dreads offending Him worse than death~ Calvin
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John_C said:
Oh my. The SBC does not consider me a Christian. Am I in some kind of purgatory waiting to be baptized as a believer. Again, the SBC as an organization has next to no influence in the day-to-day operations of the associating churches. And no my church does not, generally speaking, go around proclaiming who is and who is not a Christian. If you have been saved but not subsequently baptized then we would ask you to be baptized as a condition of membership at our church. I think I'll politely ignore the purgatory comment.
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Boanerges said:Ahh Wes you know brother as a person who didn't grow up in a Reformed church and was wandering through the perils of dispensationalism (Scofield version with a touch of Ryrie just to spice it up <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />) until I came to the Reformed faith and embraced it and the baptists who practiced it I appreciate your opinion and hope to one day convince you that you error when you think that we view our children as outsiders. But until then I still see more paedos than credos doing the poll. But as Pilgrim has pointed out I'm only going to get those "active" people anyway. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> I'd be open to having my opinion changed if someone made it clear how children are identified with the children of God in the "credo only" churches. Thankfully we can still fellowship here together without having this be a stumbling block for us. Maybe if the credos out numbered the paedos that would be different and there'd be some changes in the requirement for membership here on the-highway. As I've been reading in this thread some SB churches would insist we all make a profession of faith and be immersed or lose our rights to church membership. Then how would we paedos be looked upon if we were indeed the minority? Wes <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />
When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
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Wes said:I'd be open to having my opinion changed if someone made it clear how children are identified with the children of God in the "credo only" churches. Thankfully we can still fellowship here together without having this be a stumbling block for us. Maybe if the credos out numbered the paedos that would be different and there'd be some changes in the requirement for membership here on the-highway. As I've been reading in this thread some SB churches would insist we all make a profession of faith and be immersed or lose our rights to church membership. Then how would we paedos be looked upon if we were indeed the minority? Wes <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" /> Well Wes as a majority Baptist here <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/giggle.gif" alt="" /> and probably because I wasn't raised a Baptist I can't see the point in wetting someone more than once. I stand against all those who argue that mode means anything. I have argued to a stand still many elders who love people such as R.C. Sproul but say that he would have to be dunked for it to be real. And I've challenged them to prove to me where a person who has been baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ever has to be baptized again. So I make you a deal brother, if I get crazier in my old age and finally do go and become a minister you can join any church I pastor at and you won't have to be dunked. And we'll work out that God's children thing too. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />
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If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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John states:
Oh my. The SBC does not consider me a Christian. Am I in some kind of purgatory waiting to be baptized as a believer. You're not alone! I guess I too am an unregenerate heathen. Having not been washed and immersed by "TAP WATER" my souls bound for the fire. Hell and Damnation, I knew there was something in da wader! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bingo.gif" alt="" /> Dave.
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. - Galatians 2:16
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John_C said:
Oh my. The SBC does not consider me a Christian. I do not believe this to be the stance of the SBC at all. There is a difference between being a Christian and being a "church member" in the SBC. I'm a member of an SBC church who allows all those professing faith in Christ, regardless of whether they have ever been baptized, to partake of the Lord's Supper. Now, I can't defend them on Pilgrim's charge regarding denying membership where the mode of baptism was not immersion. They do indeed hold to this, much to my disliking.
"Nothing can be more insulting to God than to presume to examine His Word, professing a desire to learn His mind, when we have already settled to our own satisfaction what it will say."
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Yes, I knew what Vince meant; I was just having a little fun with the way he phrased it. Sorry
But, this issue does bring to mind the mistake in the claim the paedo's are too unyielding.
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"having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith . . ." Colossians 2:7
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Boanerges said:.... I make you a deal brother, if I get crazier in my old age and finally do go and become a minister you can join any church I pastor at and you won't have to be dunked. And we'll work out that God's children thing too. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" /> I appreciate your willingness to take a paedo sinner like me into your fold and not require me to be twice baptized. If you were led to be a preacher I'm sure the Lord would use you in a mighty way. However we may never fully agree on a view of our children that leaves them outside of God's visible convenant community. Wes <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />
When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
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