Fredman stated
There is some value with what ID is attempting to do, but you are correct to point out that our created world cannot be separated from the creator. That is the main problem I have with ID proponents: their attempts to distant themselves from anything biblical, and most certainly creationism.
Fred: If they didn’t distance themselves from the creationist aspect, their arguments would fall into the “theological arena” and out of the “scientific arena”. I think that their whole purpose is to get the scientific community to do “good science” based on the evidence that points toward intelligent design whoever that designer is.
Each of these folks that are on the leading edge of ID have their own personal views on the nature of the Intelligent Designer.....but their pupose IMO is not to try to identify Him\Her\It. This would be left to the theologians and not the scientists. Wm Demski,M.Div.(Princeton Theological Seminary), in his book “Mere Creation” says...”intelligent design presupposes neither a creator nor miracles.” He goes on....”ID resists speculating about the nature, moral character or purposes of this intelligence.” (Introduction pgs 17,18)
And this is what keeps this argument in the scientific arena...where scientists have to deal with it...not theologians. I think this makes it such a powerful force for the evolutionists that have to deal with it . As you point out in your critique of Mary Sanchez....they can no longer, honestly, resort to name calling. Now they have to argue at the molecular level and try to explain how the
“bacterial flagellum”, for instance, evolved all it’s parts gradually over thousands or millions of years before it even became functional.
No more name calling by honest scientists allowed! As Christians...
we know the Designer..and you are correct
we cannot separate the created world from our Creator...nor would we want to.
Dave
