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What is the best Study Bible out there? #29479
Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:25 PM
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What do you say is the best study bible for a Christian to purchase? A lot of folks say the NIV Study Bible is.What is your choice?

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What do you say is the best study bible for a Christian to purchase? A lot of folks say the NIV Study Bible is.What is your choice?

My choice would be the "The Reformation Study Bible" (NKJV). I wouldn't use anything that uses the NIV.

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The Reformation Study bible advocates infant baptism which is un scriptural and also that Christ is the Saviour for the elect alone and not for the whole world as well. Bad choice.

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The Reformation Study bible advocates infant baptism which is un scriptural and also that Christ is the Saviour for the elect alone and not for the whole world as well. Bad choice.

And here you are on a Calvinist/Reformed Board; bad choice if you are an Arminian looking for acceptance of such statements as above! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/3stooges.gif" alt="" />

Maybe you would like to prove your Arminianism on a different thread? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wow1.gif" alt="" />


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The Reformation Study bible advocates infant baptism which is un scriptural and also that Christ is the Saviour for the elect alone and not for the whole world as well. Bad choice.

<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif" alt="" /> HUH? But you specifically ask, "What do you say is the best study bible for a Christian to purchase?". I answered your question. But now you don't like my answer because it doesn't fit into your little mold. Perhaps you should have asked, "What do you say is the best Arminian Baptist study bible for those of that persuasion to purchase?"

As J_Edwards tersely put it, you are on a Calvinist discussion board, so you not only shouldn't have been surprised by my answer, but really.... to object to it is rather audacious, don't you think? FYI, there are plenty of paedobaptists here who own and benefit from MacArthur's Study Bible but who never disparage it because it teaches credobaptism. Likewise, there are lots of Baptists here who own and use The Reformation Study Bible and never cast stones upon it either.

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The Reformation Study bible advocates infant baptism which is un scriptural and also that Christ is the Saviour for the elect alone and not for the whole world as well. Bad choice.



In that case, you could go with a Scofield Study Bible but don't get the New Scofield because it's got some errors. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

Re: What is the best Study Bible out there? [Re: J_Edwards] #29485
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One cannot be called an Arminian because one states the truth of God's word. The New Testament simply does not give one example of an infant ever being baptized in water. None. Also the scriptures in two places CLEARLY state that Christ is the Saviour of ALL MEN and IS the Propitiation of the sins of the WHOLE world.I Tim 4:10 I John 2:2. The NIV translation even states it clearer. Christ is the Atoning sacrifice for the WHOLE WORLD. The scriptures speak for themselves.

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I won't get into the debate of the pros and cons of study Bibles. However, the NASB Study Bible supposedly has the same notes as the NIV Study Bible. That is if you are interested in getting a translation other than the NIV.


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Re: What is the best Study Bible out there? #29487
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One cannot be called an Arminian because one states the truth of God's word. The New Testament simply does not give one example of an infant ever being baptized in water. None. Also the scriptures in two places CLEARLY state that Christ is the Saviour of ALL MEN and IS the Propitiation of the sins of the WHOLE world.I Tim 4:10 I John 2:2. The NIV translation even states it clearer. Christ is the Atoning sacrifice for the WHOLE WORLD. The scriptures speak for themselves.

And the N.T. nowhere says that anyone was "immersed"! Let's not go off topic with this and get into another fruitless debate re: baptism. You don't want to adhere to the biblical teaching of the covenant and baptize only professing adults, fine.

As to the issue of the use of the term "Arminian", the truth of God's Word has been dealt with many times historically and Arminianism/semi-Pelagianism has been deemed heretical in every case. Deal with it. Again, if you choose to hold to heretical doctrine, fine. But THIS Board is firmly based upon the doctrines of the Bible which were once again brought to life during the Protestant Reformation. Protestantism IS biblical Calvinism. Arminianism was attempt to return to the doctrines of Rome. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/puke.gif" alt="" />

The NIV butchers both those texts in that it totally obviates the Greek word, "hilasmos" which expresses the two aspects of "expiation" and "propitiation"; a fundamental element of the atonement.

Lastly, in regard to 1Tim 4:10 and 1Jh 2:2, see these exegetical studies:

1) An Exegetical Study of 1Timothy 4:10 by Dr. Gary Long
2) Propitiation in 1John 2:2 by Dr. Gary Long

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Re: What is the best Study Bible out there? #29488
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I would recommend, as others have, The Reformation Study Bible. I use the new one out using the ESV. Another good one is The MacArthur Study Bible, as has already been mentioned as well (although I don't own one at the moment). A third one I have is The Life Application Study Bible. I've not used it a whole lot, but I have a copy that I've had since I was in high school, and while I don't always agree with it, it does a good job of helping to apply the Scriptures, which is ultimately what we should be doing when we study the Bible in the first place.

A good one as well (and I don't own one of these either) is The Key Word Study Bible. This is wonderful for word studies because it has key words pointed out and the definition for the original Hebrew or Greek presented.

Just my <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/my2cents.gif" alt="" />

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One that hasn't been mentioned yet is the New Geneva Study Bible. It's the "forerunner" to the Reformation Study Bible. I have both, but I got used to the New Geneva one.

The updated NASB has some excellent study aids in it as well.

-Robin

Re: What is the best Study Bible out there? [Re: Robin] #29490
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Ok, well I'll through this in here, because it hasn't been mentioned. Even though I stick with my Reformation Study Bible, NKJV ( wish someone would print in NASB <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> ) But anyway, I would also recommend MacArthurs Study Bible. It's disspy, but if you can discern that part of his theology, then the rest of it is pretty darn good. Oh, and I believe he's a credo. Even though baptism is just a sign and it doesn't do anything to regenerate the person. But like Pilgrim has stated, we don't want to go off topic. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Oh, while we're at it, can someone please show me where the trinity is in scripture? I can't find it anywhere.

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Go for the MacArthur study bible. Any tough passage I've run into, there's a satisfying answer. The eschatolagy will be a touchy issue, but...

After owning one for over a year, I can't imagine not having it.

Also, there's no concordance, but a topical index which is at times handy and at other times annoying. Maps, an overview of theology (basically the GCC statement of faith), etc.


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Re: What is the best Study Bible out there? [Re: Reformation Monk] #29492
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Dave,

The Spirit of the Reformation Study Bible has excellent study notes as well, plus the addition of the WCF and Larger & Shorter Catechisms. In fact, the notes is basically the same as the Reformation Study Bible, maybe even the same. For some reason their was a split between Sproul and the others. The only bugaboo for some is that it is only in the NIV.

It would be nice for the Lockman Foundation to open up the NASB for widespread use, but I think they mistakenly adopted the Apple model in granting permissions instead of Microsoft


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