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#29827 Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:31 PM
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Nobody heard or know something about pre-existence doctrine. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/coffee2.gif" alt="" />


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Nobody heard or know something about pre-existence doctrine. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/coffee2.gif" alt="" />

The pre-existence of what?


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I do not really know. I just hear about that last week.
I wiil get more informationabout it.
I tough the that subject was reformed.


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pre-existence of God, and the universe.


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Nobody heard or know something about pre-existence doctrine. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/coffee2.gif" alt="" />
Are you thinking of the doctrine that Jesus Christ had a human.soul which existed before the creation and thought to be in union with the Second Person of the Godhead before His actual birth… or are you thinking of Mormon pre-existence doctrine….. or are you thinking of Gnosticism?


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pre-existence of God, and the universe.
Well, since God is eternal, then it is impossible that He could have had a "pre-existence". And, as for the universe being pre-existent, that would be impossible as well, since things only exist when and after God creates them. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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You are probably thinking of the Pre-existiani who believed that in the beginning of creation God created the souls of all men, which were subsequently as a punishment for ill-doing incarnated in physical bodies till discipline should render them fit for spiritual existence. It is a false view of predestination. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />


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You are probably thinking of the Pre-existiani who believed that in the beginning of creation God created the souls of all men, which were subsequently as a punishment for ill-doing incarnated in physical bodies till discipline should render them fit for spiritual existence. It is a false view of predestination. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />
That is exactly the point of view. talk a little more about that please.
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You are probably thinking of the Pre-existiani who believed that in the beginning of creation God created the souls of all men, which were subsequently as a punishment for ill-doing incarnated in physical bodies till discipline should render them fit for spiritual existence. It is a false view of predestination. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />
That is exactly the point of view. talk a little more about that please.
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First, I would ask you where you stand on Creationism and Traducianism? You can read more about these here: Romans 5:12 and Are You a Traducianist or Creationist? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bravo.gif" alt="" />


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