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It is liturgy the only way to worship?
It is liturgy the best way to worship in this time 2006? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bravo.gif" alt="" />


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It is liturgy the only way to worship?
It is liturgy the best way to worship in this time 2006? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bravo.gif" alt="" />
First of all, you are going to have to define "liturgy". But used in the broadest sense, that is an order of worship, then everyone uses some form of liturgy.

Second, you are going to have to define "worship", e.g., corporate or private, and in regard to private worship, if you mean a set time and method of worship or the expression of one's life in general, e.g., in all that one does in life.

Third, "time" doesn't have any bearing, if by time you mean the contemporary culture. God is always, everywhere and forever to be worshipped in "spirit and truth", which can only be determined by what HE Himself has revealed about worship in His inspired, infallible and inerrant Word. Men may differ as to what this is exactly, but it is most generally agreed that God is not to be worshipped according to the vain imaginations of men. And this must apply to ALL expressions of worship.

See the various articles on "Worship" on this page: Ecclesiology - The Doctrine of the Church.

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I mean method of worship in church.


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I mean method of worship in church.
Well, that's extremely "generic", i.e., it could apply to anything. As I mentioned in my last reply, God has not left worship in the hands of men to do as they please, but rather He has set forth principles and regulations that men are to follow; aka: "The Regulative Principle of Worship". And, like most everything else, there is no universal agreement upon what that Regulative Principle is nor how it is to be applied. For example, there are some who say that God forbids any type of instruments to be used. Others believe that only the biblical Psalms are to be sung. But aside from those two areas of disagreement among Reformed churches, there is much more agreement as to the general principle itself. That is spelled out in simple terms as, "Man shall not worship God by other means than that which is commanded in Scripture." The opposite side of this is what most "evangelical" churches adhere to and that is, "Man is free to worship God in anyway he so chooses as long as there is no specific prohibition against it in the Bible."

As you can see, the two positions are antithetical. Unfortunately, the historic Reformed position has been ignored even in some Reformed churches who have opted for the trendy, "seeker-friendly", "mega-church", "emerging church", "church growth", etc., etc., ad nauseam ideas.

So again, EVERYONE holds to some form of "liturgy" whether they are conscious of it or not. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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in all RC are differents position in this I mean worship style?


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in all RC are differents position in this I mean worship style?
<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/yep.gif" alt="" /> You would find a vast difference within individual RC churches. There are a few who have clung to the old Latin only services all the way to some who have a contemporary "party" atmosphere as you can find in many evan-jelly-cal churches.

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