The Highway Forums General Discussion Open Forum Conundrum Thread

I would like to revisit something that William said on the conundrum thread.

William said:


I am not saying William is wrong about this (at least yet), but I would at least like him to prove that what he said is true.
I have seen a little bit of ballet and from what I have seen the out fits do not look like underwear to me. In fact, (although there are exceptions) they cover a lot more than most bathing suits do.
Recently I heard that ballet is pornography, but contrary to what they say the out fits are not underwear, but body suits, which cover more than bathing suits do.
If one goes to any pool or beach, they should see that even the most conservative women's bathing suits cover less than a ballet out fit (again there are exceptions).
Is it wrong to go to pools or beaches, because of the way others dress?

Opera- It is hard to comment too much on opera since I can't stand it. But, something tells me that he is lumping all opera in the same mold.

By the way, I thought what Robin had to say on the subject was very appropriate.

Tom

Tom

Thanks for asking the question It's OK if you think I'm wrong but I will not try to prove anything. I am coming to a point in my walk where I am done arguing with other Christians and their so called Christian liberty, Christians who think that they can get tattoo's, watch Football on the Lord's day, listen to rock music, go to the movies that blaspheme God. I think there is something terribly wrong with their faith.

PS . . . and I don't think that Eve was created with a short yet a feminine hair style. You know why, because you can't wipe Jesus feet with short hair.

Not very edifying I know.

Have a good Lord's day,
William

Being new here I am not sure how serious this is supposed to be. I have to admitt I laughed when I read the original post I thought it was a joke. Is this a joke.

William

I am a person who likes to decide things based on their own individual merits. I am with you on some of the so called "Christian Liberties". All too often we use that as an excuse to not follow what the Word of God actually says on a given subject. However, I also believe that we can become legalists by proclaiming sin what Scripture doesn't say is sin.
Off the top of my head for example, there are many Christians that believe that the consumption of alcohol is sinful no matter how little a person drinks. They even go as far as to question the salvation of anyone who consumes alcohol.

Should I except what you believe on the subject, before it can be defended biblically? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratch1.gif" alt="" />

Tom

No Isha this isn't a joke it is a small discussion on what exactly constitutes Christian Liberty. William has expressed one view but there are others. However, William has said he has no interest in arguing about the other views.

Hi

The problem I have is that he made it sound like he is condemning others who may disagree, before he has proven his point biblically.

Tom

OK Tom perhaps I was to harsh about the ballet so I will try to get back with you when time permits.

In peace,
William

<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> With a picture like that, who could argue with you.

Tom

Dear William,

Who knew you were so multi-talented?

That's tutu much!

Could we see sumo pictures like that?

Pretty-pliés?

Well, I do agree with most of what you said here but I just cannot find the reference to where Eve wiped Jesus feet. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratch1.gif" alt="" /> Could you help me out here?

Hi Tom, first off I want you know that I made this post knowing that I was setting myself up for controversy and I acknowledge that it is to his own master that a man standeth or falleth.

Will I provide proof texts for what I have said perhaps, but why bother it will just be given another interpretation under pretence of Christian liberty rather than sanctified common sense based on what is necessarily contained in the Holy Scripture.

Can you or someone else in their own words please explain why a Christian has liberty to:

Watch sports on the Lord's day <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/dizzy.gif" alt="" />

Get a tattoo <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratch1.gif" alt="" />

Listen to rock music <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/nope.gif" alt="" />

Go to movies that blaspheme God <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/nono.gif" alt="" />


William

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chestnutmare,

Surely you must know that I was refering to the Mary in John chapter 12, sorry I know it offends. How long is long well just ask a 5 year old. A 5 year old can even answer the question "is partial birth abortion wrong" something congress can not.


Peace William


John 12:3 Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and [color:"FF0000"] wiped [/color] his feet with her [color:"FF0000"] hair [/color] : and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.

Paul just so you know I have lost 5 lbs. since that photo.

William

What do those things have to do with the matter at hand?

Like I said before, I believe everything should be judged on its own merit.
For instance, there are people that say all forms of drinking are sin, but is that biblical? I think the Bible is quite clear that it isn't. But if you try to tell them that and use the Bible to show that even Jesus drank wine and they will almost accuse you of blasphemy.
This is an example of why I like to judge each matter on its own merits.

I can respect you for your stand on this particular issue and still disagree. But, I can't respect your taking a stand on the issue at hand and question others walk with the Lord, before you have established it biblically.

I have been a Christian for long enough to realize that each and every one of us are in different points in our walk with the Lord. As the Lord sheds light to an area, the obedient Christian walks into that light.
However, I have also found that even among the most loyal followers of the Lord, there are going to be disagreements.

In those cases, I think it is best just to obey what you believe is biblical and not judge our brothers and sisters harshly.

Tom

I am fairly new here and I am also so what new to reform theology. I hoped that I was misunderstanding earlier but I can see now that I am not. I can see that going to a movie that profanes God is a no brainer... I an also understand the rational for the rock music... never been a big fan myself so perhaps the understanding is more personal perferance than Bibical understanding. The football and the tattoo smack of legalism to me. I have a tattoo and at least once a year I watch football with my friends. (They call it fellowship but that is another thread.)

I quess I am confussed... and a bit disappointed. I am a meber of another forum that is without apology the antipoid of this place. The theology over there is so fuzzy and mixed with error as to be almost unbearable at times and yet I find that there is sense in which I feel less condemned there that I have felt in reading this one thread. I am not convicted of error. I fail to see how these issues particually have any real conncection to whether a person has real faith. Perhaps you can englighten me from scripture so that I can understand more of the soverigien grace of God in calling people to himself even those of us with a tattoo and an occcassional like for football on sunday.