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#40875 Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:49 AM
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Apparently I have caused my wife quite a few awkward moments in the last few years.
Just recently she was with a group of her Christian friends and the subject of the book 'The Shack' came up. My wife commented that Tom didn't like the theology of the author of the book. One of the women said (while rolling her eyes), Tom and theology...
This is the first time she has shared something like this concern with me, but because she wanted me to know what many think of me, so I could think about how I relate to others. She was not saying this to hurt me and I didn’t take it that way.

I am curious if any others have had this kind of thing happen to them since "theology" really started to mean something to you.
I have to admit that before I discovered Reformed theology, many Christians used to come to me a fair amount and share things with me. Now however, those times are few and far between.
My first inclination is to just chalk it up to Christians not wanting to discuss anything deep when it comes to theology. However, seeing as how I want to make sure that it isn't something in me, rather than my theology that might be offensive, I thought I would share this concern with other Reformed Christians.
One thing I have made a practice of doing in the last year or so, when I write an e-mail or are in a discussion about theology, is to tell them to be honest with me. If they would rather not have me discuss a topic such as this, please let me know. Yet, despite this, I have yet to get a response pro or con back.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Tom

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Theology is important. So is how we treat others.

No matter how kind Jesus was in how he healed the sick, raised the dead etc. He was still under the condemnation of the religious who couldn't understand His theology.

Personal examination is good to see if we display love along with correct theology. Then go on and continue to teach and share the truth. If someone said you shared correct theology but fell short on showing love, that would be a shame. But, if all they say is 'Tom and theology', that doesn't sound like an accusation of coldness.

This comment reveals a heart that doesn't appreciate the 'pearls' of truth in God's Word. There will always be women who love the fluff of fellowship but have no desire for the real reason for a fellowship, to promote God's Word in each others lives.
I am sure with some good teaching on that, you can guide a true lamb into a more mature attitude.


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I believe you are spot on when you say that most Christians don't want to discuss or even investigate deeper matters of doctrine and theology. I was such a believer myself for many years, content to remain ignorant in a feel-good evangelical church hearing a stump speech for Jesus every Sunday morning.

And that is why you sense some rejection from others and experience these awkward moments, as you call them. Just make sure that your speech is "full of grace, seasoned with salt" as it says in Colossians. Like me, I believe your wife and others will some day yearn for more understanding of God's Word and ways. This is what has lead me to Reformed theology and writings.

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That rejection isn't personal. But by instinct some back away from meat because they are only able to digest milk.

I think being drawn to Reformed Theology can also be the result the Holy Spirit working and drawing us to His Truth.

Waking up and realizing my church was all fluff and no substance was a rude awakening to me.

I looked around and saw every church in my town in the same situation.

Reformed theology is biblical, that's why it brings in the sheep who are sick of fluff.

May the Lord continue to gather His sheep and wake up His sleepy ones.


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I agee with the posts thus far. I believe the reason some folks have trouble with reformed theology is:
1)It takes some deep thought as has been stated and many have developed laziness in thinking and I might even say, have never developed the ability to think deeply about anything, as our culture (tv, movies, internet) bombards us with sensory overload and doesn't require one to think at all.
2)Man recoils from giving all credit for salvation to God alone, as our flesh wants to take some credit. Martin Luther said " after 20 yrs. of preaching and teaching the gospel of grace, I still feel the old clinging dirt of wanting to offer something to God that would make Him love me more."
It is so refreshing when I meet someone like-minded who loves reformed doctrine and gets excited talking about it.


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muchforgiven,

Well said, but I guess I would probably reverse the order, thus:

1) Man innately hates the very idea of a sovereign God and strives to maintain his deluded ideas of autonomy. As it has been said many times here: "In the beginning, God created man in His own image. And ever since that day, man has been trying to return the favor."

2) Typically, when you ask someone to exercise that muscle between their ears, they inevitably will experience a "Charlie Horse", due to the brains lack of use. [Linked Image]

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