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Would John 3:16 answer both questions because Christ died for sinners and for humans bad and good and their sins are forgiven already, but unbelievers just have to acknowledge what Christ did??

Would John 3:16 answer both questions because Christ died for sinners and for humans bad and good and their sins are forgiven already, but unbelievers just have to acknowledge what Christ did??

1. Does one have to "reject Him as Lord" to be worthy of eternal death? Aren't all men by nature under the just wrath of God and subject to condemnation by the virtue of the very fact that they are sinners by nature and thus hate God from the moment they are conceived?

1) That wouldn't seem to address what John is calling the "sin unto death," for John writes not to pray for those who sin the sin unto death. If unbelief is the sin unto death, then the conclusion would be that we shouldn't pray for unbelievers. You don't think that's the case, do you?

2) John 3:16 doesn't say that Christ died for each & every person who ever lived. Furthermore, if He had, then each & every person who ever lived would, in fact, be saved. If everyone is already forgiven of all their sins, why would unbelief prevent them from being saved?

It is the acknowledgement of what Christ done for us which saves us.
That is why those who don't believe are condemned already:
M'r:16:16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Jesus has no respect of person, so hHe died for all, we just have to accept what Christ did for us that is the good news of the gospel out of love.

Deuteronomy 7:7-8 (ASV) "Jehovah did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all peoples: but because Jehovah loveth you, and because he would keep the oath which he sware unto your fathers, hath Jehovah brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt."

Romans 9:11-24 (ASV) "for [the children] being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth, it was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. Even as it is written, Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that hath mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, For this very purpose did I raise thee up, that I might show in thee my power, and that my name might be published abroad in all the earth. So then he hath mercy on whom he will, and whom he will be hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he still find fault? For who withstandeth his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why didst thou make me thus? Or hath not the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor? What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering vessels of wrath fitted unto destruction: and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory, [even] us, whom he also called, not from the Jews only, but also from the Gentiles?"

It is the acknowledgement of what Christ done for us which saves us.
That is why those who don't believe are condemned already:
M'r:16:16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Jesus has no respect of person, so hHe died for all, we just have to accept what Christ did for us that is the good news of the gospel out of love.

We are righteous because of Christ, and we are perfect , Holy just and righteous because of :
Ro:5:19: For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Ro:5:20: Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Ro:5:21: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Do righteous people go to hell?
This scripture above help prove our salvation is unconditional relationship, and it is all on Jesus as our Lord.