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Here is an interesting video on Britain versus Christianity


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Thanks for the video. My family and I visited Great Britain; that oppressive experience of cold Muslim influence was very evident, to be sure. What strikes sadly odd though is the absolute strangeness of why a government would desire to promote, advocate and protect a religion that not only hates Christianity, but promotes world-wide terrorism. It's almost as if I were trying to rationalize my friend Mr. Humanism's insane rationalism thus:

"You believe in the autonomy of the individual. Autonomy implies meaning of course. Liberty essentially means the exercise of [your] will. You believe in making the world a civilized place through humanism. Humanism is a brand of universal goodness that accomplishes its good ends without God..."

But, as Christians well know, the only way humanism can work "rationally" is that it must endorse Neo-Darwinism. And, in order for that to factor out, it must eliminate God.

..."Meaninglessness and chaos thus produce meaning, personal dignity, and liberty? Your humanism is my Christianity without God, and with many exceptions to avoid certain personal inconveniences. You have admitted that the only place where that kind of humanistic goodness has ever occurred has been in the context of a mature Christian heritage, where your ideals actually came to fruition under the tutelage and providence of God. People who love God and restrain their selfish passions upon the power of the Holy Spirit by faith produce a community of largely successful civility. You confess that only Christian societies have produced anything that approaches civil liberty and justice. Yet, you believe that somehow a powerful, humanistic civil government is inherently good and capable of wisdom. Such a government should force people also to be wise and good, who somehow are not otherwise capable of goodness.

On the other hand, God is only a myth. God doesn’t show himself to you. Therefore, He cannot be. Of course, God would unduly limit your favored choice of beliefs and practice. God would deny a woman the freedom of choice to kill the fruit of her own womb, and man’s dignity to engage in homosexual relationships. Moreover, it seems, God would deny the civil government the power to take care of everyone’s medical needs. (God’s Word indicates government is properly limited with its purpose to oversee civil justice—protecting the God-given rights of men; and re-distribution is stealing.) Medical needs are an entitled right! Though you are autonomous, you need an all-powerful government to provide security. It is wrong to kill, so murderers must not be executed. Self-defense is wrong, so it seems that while we might desire civility, we ought not actually to do anything about it when the bully and tyrant appears. We will regulate everyone to eliminate crime. "*

Of course, the pervading problem here is nothing new under the sun. Apart from God, there can be no universal goodness, or decency or order. Forget it! I mean, just compare the message true biblical Christianity advocates to that proposed by Islam, and humanism as well. What's causing more harm?

Great Britain's loss of Christian heritage is sad indeed. Sad indeed, especially as it seeks to rationally justify its own loss. Yet, thanks be to God for His Truth that is known and recognized, even by a world that hates Him as it hates His people! The world seeks to eradicate Christianity because it knows it is the Truth, by the grace of God revealed in His Word, and through the testimony of convicted hearts, and changed lives! May God's Truth continue on despite humanism's best efforts to squelch it! (-Sorry, I hope I'm not being overly pessimistic here)

"If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."

--Thanks again for sharing that video! smile

*A Thought for Resurrection Sunday; Ronald W. Kirk

(And thanks for the editing tip Pilgrim.)

-Fay

Last edited by CustosFariAnima; Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:33 PM.

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FYI, Fay... here you can edit your post/reply up to 6 hours. So, there is no need to append either if you left something out, need to make grammatical or spelling errors, etc. grin

You also may benefit from reading through the FAQ section as it gives you a good overview of the features available on this board. It is feature rich, to say the least. [Linked Image]

Oh... that's why your litte appendage was removed. evilgrin


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