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rstrats #52839 Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:16 PM
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Sorry I can't make heads or tails of what you are trying to say? scratch1

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Tom,
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The Messiah said that 3 night times would be involved with His time in the "heart of the earth".

There are those who believe that the Messiah died on the 6th day of the week and who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the time between the leaving of His spirit from His body and His resurrection on the 1st day of the week.

But this belief allows for only 2 night times to be involved between the time of His death and the time of His resurrection.

To reconcile this discrepancy some say that the Messiah was using common Jewish idiomatic language.

I am simply asking for examples to support that assertion; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred. But in order to say that it was common, one would have to know of other instances where the same pattern had to have been used. I am simply looking for some of those instances, scriptural or otherwise.

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Originally Posted by rstrats
I am simply asking for examples to support that assertion; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred. But in order to say that it was common, one would have to know of other instances where the same pattern had to have been used. I am simply looking for some of those instances, scriptural or otherwise.
[Linked Image] I provided them and several others have confirmed that they have been provided... The problem is that you either don't like them or reject them without cause. shrug


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Pilgrim,
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I haven't seen where you have done that. And it appears that you don't want to point out where you think that you have.

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I haven't seen where you have done that. And it appears that you don't want to point out where you think that you have.
Here are the places I provided solid evidence that both supports the historic Christian view and refutes several erroneous views:

- Dec 7, 2013 02:32 PM

- Dec 8, 2013 05:25 PM

- Sept 17, 2014 10:04 AM


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Pilgrim,

re: "Dec 7, 2013 02:32 PM"
re: "Dec 8, 2013 05:25 PM"
re: "Sept 17, 2014 10:04 AM"

I still don't see where any examples are provided in those posts to show that it was common to forecast that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred.

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I just went through this whole thread again and have concluded that Pilgrim's answers do indeed provide a logical answer to your query. The problem seems to be you just don't understand; or you reject what was said.

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Tom,

Exactly what is it that you think I am asking?

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Since it's that time of year, perhaps someone new looking in will know of examples.

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Isn't the all important question here whether jesus actually rose from the grave, not on what day that he died on?

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JesusFan,
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That would be a question for a different topic since that is not what I'm asking.

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I mustbe misunderstanding you here, what was the gist of your question then?

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JesusFan,
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OK, let my repeat:
The Messiah said that 3 night times would be involved with His time in the "heart of the earth".

There are those who believe that the Messiah died on the 6th day of the week and who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the time between the leaving of His spirit from His body and His resurrection on the 1st day of the week.

But this belief allows for only 2 night times to be involved between the time of His death and the time of His resurrection.

To reconcile this discrepancy some say that the Messiah was using common Jewish figure of speech/colloquial language.

I am simply asking for examples to support that assertion; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred. But in order to say that it was common, one would have to know of other instances where the same pattern had to have been used. I am simply looking for some of those instances, scriptural or otherwise.

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Since it's been awhile, perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.

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Originally Posted by rstrats
Since it's been awhile, perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.
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