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#26606 Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:39 PM
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Gene Edward Veith in WORLD magazine writes a terrific commentary concerning evangelical-cultural conservatives, yet their conservatism disappears when it comes to the church.


John Chaney

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This article sounds exactly like an article that I read in my local paper a month or so back. Yeah, It's really hard for me to understand this concept of liberal conservatives. It's an oxymoron in my opinion. The article that I read in my local paper was about Pastor Nate Atwood and about his ministry at Kempsville Presbyterian Church

In this article of yours, "Liberal Conservatives" it makes in my opinion a pretty accurate description of what a conservative is...

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Conservatives, on the other hand, want to "conserve" elements of the past. Cultural traditions—as in "our Western civilization" and "our American heritage"—are seen as good things. So are "traditional values" and the sense that basic institutions, such as the family, need protecting rather than changing. Conservatives too might work for changing society and challenging its evils, but the goal tends to be restoring a moral order, rather than the progressives' agenda of creating a society that is completely new.

Liberals are just trying to cover up their agenda by trying to get people to believe that they are also "conservative" in certain areas, where it counts. But I also believe that our culture has gotten to the point now that evangelicals have to call themselves "conservative" for even holding too a Christian belief. So I think that Liberal evangelicals do actually consider themselves conservative because they believe in the Christian message, even though they have distorted it and virtually changed it. They don't see themselves as completely "nonconservative" in the aspect of not being truly biblical in their faith and practice. They still believe that the bible is just another book along side other secular books that help people and that doctrine divides and the bible isn't inerrant and infallible and shouldn't be our only source of truth and faith. So even though they consider "themselves" as conservative by the cultures standards, they have totally let the "culture" dictate their faith.

The city on the hill in allot of evangelical churches has slowly sunk down to the valley and "emerged" with the "world."

Y.B.I.C,

Dave.


Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. - Galatians 2:16
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I think the words conservative and liberal have almost no meaning today. "Fiscal" conservatives and "Liberal" on the so-called social issues? What does that mean? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. It is only a means to get votes in this post-Christian land. I also could care less if someone is a Democrat or a Republican. Those titles mean nothing either. Every candidate must be examined thoroughly.

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