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you silly goose!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

thanks for the link! will check this out..
Michele

I agree. But, on the other hand, isn't every translation a paraphrase to one degree or another?

Pil!!

good one!!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/peace.gif" alt="" />

Hadn't really thought about it. lol

I love the ESV also, but I also read New King James Version, New American Standard, and even Jay Green's Literal translation of the Bible. Interestingly, NKJV and Literal both use the Byzantine Greek text, whilst ESV and New American (along with many others) use the Majority text. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.

Here's an interesting page on The Message I found a while back: http://www.crossroad.to/Bible_studies/Message.html . Keep in mind it's written by fundamentalists, but they do have some good points.

I read some of that article, but I couldn't finish. It may have been the Holy Spirit, or it may not have. Anyway, what I noticed is that they didn't acknowledge that it is a paraphrase. It needs to be as accurate as possible, but what is the difference between paraphrasing and writing a commentary? Doesn't a commentary paraphrase and explain Scripture to the individuals interpretation? And doesn't Mr. Peterson do the same thing with The Message? Just some thoughts that came to mind. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />

I makes a huge difference when STUDYING the Scripture. One may read a commentary or a paraphrase and get some insight, but it IS NOT the same as (1) reading the Scriptures themselves (2) studying the Scriptures in-depth (which you cannot do from a paraphrase, because you do not have an "original" translation). NEVER allow a paraphrase to come between you and the Word of God (many are inaccurate). Never substitute a commentary for the Word of God.

Personally, I think that a "Paraphrased Bible" sold with the intention of convincing the non-discerning buyer, that it as THE BIBLE in an "easy to read" format is both unethical, irresponsible and an oxymoron.

One of the main responsibilities of the Church is to "make disciples" of all nations, which is what Paul says Christ, through the Spirit, gifts men for in the Church. (cf. Eph 4:12-14). These people seem to think that if they can reduce the inspired written Word of God to a level where a first grader can comprehend the words, then people will have "more of a chance" to be saved and/or to learn truth. Give me a break!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/igiveup.gif" alt="" />

In His Grace,

Dear Joe:

Amen

In Him,

Gerry

Do you see anything wrong here:

The text of the Message: 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 reads as follows:

The text of the Message: 1 Timothy 1:9-10 reads as follows:

Oh I would never substitute a paraphrase for Scripture. That'd be like substituting women for men preachers...you just shouldn't do that. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/nope.gif" alt="" />

Stucco asked: .... isn't every translation a paraphrase to one degree or another?
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Hmmm........ I'm glad, for example, that Moses didn't paraphrase what God said His laws for the people were, but rather he translated them to the people.
Read the definition of the word translate and then that of paraphrase and the difference will be evident.
Not to be picking on Stucco, but I think that line of reasoning is a tool in Satan's hands every time someone chooses a paraphrase over the actual Word of God.

Cecil- who only looked at this thread because I was looking for an in-depth critique of The Message online and thought I'd find one here for sure......