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Joe wrote:

Why do you make a distinction in the visible and indivisible Church "for children" if YOU are going to presume them all regenerated? If you presume them regenerate then you must presume them a member of the invisible Church! Are there unregenerate members in the invisible Church? Do you pray for the salvation of your children RonD?

Where did Ron say that he presumes them regenerate? Did he not say that we should exhort our children to conversion? He "presumes" them elect, at best, which we all do with respect to a great number of people who profess Christ. I presume you elect, Joe; I presume Pilgrim elect, and Susan, and Marie, and Nathan, and many others here. Where you are really disagreeing with Ron is the treatment of unprofessing children as elect, because they cannot show forth the fruits of the Spirit as adults can. That is a valid argument, I think; but is it cause to be so hostile toward Ron? You are not being gentle; in contrast, Ron has been most patient and gentle throughout this discussion.

Kyle

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.