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Wes,
I'm sure you could have written a much better case or paedo-baptism than the article you posted.
'Children are included in every covenant God ever made with man.'
Not in the New Covenant, they're not (Jer 31:29ff). Nor are they included in the Abrahamic Covenant, which is an adumbration of the NC. 'Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham' (Gal 3:7- again!). Nor are they in the Davidic Covenant properly understood, but let that pass for the moment.
He quoted Acts 2:38-39; 'The promise is to you and your children and to all that are far off.' OK, what is the promise? That if they repent and are baptized, they will receive remission of sins and the Holy Spirit. Amen! The promise of the NC is, 'Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved.'
He went on, 'The Apostles did not set up a new organization.' I can't think how he could write this with a straight face! Matt 21:43; Mark 13:2; Acts 6:14.
Finally, he quoted 1Cor 10:1ff (or was it Joe?). Gosh! Is this the covenant you are baptizing your children into? Where their bodies will fall in the wilderness, and they never reach the promised land? God forbid! Steve, Clearly you and I are on a different page when we’re talking about the covenant. Since all of your arguments have been addressed in previous replies I’m sure if I were to repeat them it wouldn’t change a thing. Your view that the Apostles set up a new organization speaks volumes about how you see Israel and the Church. Even Dr. Fred Malone who espouses your view admits that the Baptist position is not classic covenant theology. I hope at least you have gained a better understanding of Reformed Covenant Theology through our dialogue even though you don’t embrace it. Wes
When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
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