I have dealt with some people who seem to be following the same lines as the Auburnites.<br>They have people 'saved' and 'elect' not because they are forever saved or forever elect but because they go to church and are baptised. Then these 'saved' and 'elect' people show they are still 'children of Satan' or 'tares' by their failure to keep the covenant.<br><br>They also teach that since in the OT the elect included Israelites [members of the covenant] who ended up damned [they were elect because they were israelites and circumcised] then in the NT we have elect [who are members of the New Covenant because they were baptised] being damned as well.<br><br>It can be very confusing getting to the bottom of it because they use the same words but with different meanings.