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hisalone said: You put way too much faith in confessions. I don't find my final source in the confessions. As you demonstrated with this snippet, confessions of faith can be contradictory. You are more Anabaptist than Reformed since you reject the great Confessions which the CHURCH (interdenominational) has formulated as a statement of faith in regard to the doctrines of Scripture. They are secondary to the Scriptures but as far as they teach what Scripture teaches they are to be seen as authoritative. This has been the understanding of the CHURCH (interdenominational), as previously shown, for centuries. The Holy Spirit wasn't dead during the period of the Apostles until you came along. He gave illumination to those whom He gifted as promised by the Lord Christ. Again, how is it that you are so knowledgeable of such things and all before us somehow were blind to these things? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif" alt="" /> hisalone said: What do YOU think the purpose of Baptism is? That is the crux of the matter, our view of its purpose. My view is exactly that which is summarized in all the Confessions, catechisms and history of the CHURCH (Protestant) to which I referenced previously. Secondly, you were asked by both myself and CovenantInBlood to defend your view with Scripture. Asking what I/we believe is hardly an answer. Can you present your case or not? hisalone said: Why are you laughing? From your answer to me, it shows that you really do not understand anything that has been said to this point. Water baptism isn't necessary nor does it add to our salvation, it is about our choice to be obedient. How can an infant make such a choice? BTW, I believe in dedicating a child to the Lord, a choice a parent can make, but baptism is a personal choice that nobody can make for you. Is that so difficult to see? ![[Linked Image]](http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/OffTopic.gif) The topic at hand is your contention that the vast majority of the Church has somehow missed an important element in the meaning of baptism, i.e., it is a "consecration into the priesthood". And, such lack of understanding which is allegedly clearly taught in Scripture has led to a total misunderstanding of the sacrament. Since the CHURCH has summarized its teaching throughout history and has not recognized this "insight" of yours which is opposed to its teaching, the onus is upon YOU to bring forth a defense which is biblically cogent, precise and profound. Can you do this or not? BTW, for a topic for another thread, where in Scripture can you show that infants are to be "dedicated"? In His grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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