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Hi Kyle, Do you think there is clear biblical evidence that Jn 6:51-59 is merely symbolic and not literal? You yourself don't believe it is strictly literal. You instead interpret it to be speaking of the Eucharist. Where in the passage does Jesus speak of the bread & wine of the Eucharist being transformed into the substance of His flesh & blood? Nowhere. Furthermore, Jesus' body & blood did not actually come down from heaven, did they? And, as I already pointed out, the Lord's Supper had not even been instituted at that point in time & John's Gospel doesn't even mention it. But in answer to your question, yes, verse 63, as I already pointed out. Jesus often uses similar figures of speech. I already mentioned when He spoke of living water to the woman at the well; in that same chapter He also speaks of eating meat, which is to do the will of the Father (4:33-35). Likewise, Jesus says that John was the lamp (5:35) & calls Himself the light of the world (8:12). Besides which, to affirm transubstantiation is to make nonsense of Christ's human nature. It is not in the nature of a single human body to be physically present in more than one location simultaneously without being torn to bits, much less to be present in the accidents of bread & wine.
Kyle
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.
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