Hi Pilgrim,

We agree with Clement that we are redeemed through “the blood of Christ’s flesh”. This makes an anti-bodily interpretation of Jn 6:63 impossible. I this light, I think a non-literal interpretation of Jn 6:33-58 is also indefensible from Sola Scriptura, especially since this section is so unlike any other "metaphor" exposition in Scripture.

I think Clement does indicate that we are sanctified through the Eucharistic Feast: “And the mixture of both--of the water and of the Word--is called Eucharist, renowned and glorious grace; and they who by faith partake of it are sanctified both in body and soul." [Clement of Alexandria,The Instructor,2(ante A.D. 202),in ANF,II:242.]

Here is a similar example from Augustine:

"... I promised you, who have now been baptized, a sermon in which I would explain the Sacrament of the Lord's Table, which you now look upon and of which you last night were made participants. You ought to know what you have received, what you are going to receive, and what you ought to receive daily. That Bread which you see on the altar, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the Body of Christ. That chalice, or rather, what is in that chalice, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the Blood of Christ. Through that bread and wine the Lord Christ willed to commend His Body and Blood, which He poured out for us unto the forgiveness of sins. If you receive worthily, you are what you have received." [Augustine, Sermon 227]

Now regarding Christian history...doubtless some of the Old Covenant leaders were handing on bad teaching for centuries. Yet the Jewish teaching authority was entirely upheld, even as its officers were publicly excoriated. Cf. Mt 23:1-3etc.

I think the New Covenant is enacted on better promises to the City of the God. Cf. 1 Tim 3:15, Luke 1: 32-33. I don’t see Biblical indications that the Pillar and Foundation of Truth could universally err about anything, let alone the the Breaking of the Bread.

Thank you for your response. With prayer for the unity of Christ’s Body,
Dan Schultz


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