<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"] I'm quite sure that Carlos is not arguing for a meaning of "fulfill" as an abrogation of the law, (I'm sure Carlos will affirm this! )</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Yes, I believe Carlos would too, and that's why I thought it was relevant to point out that Christ confirms the perpetuity of the law and the prophets here, for if this is the case then it is not referring to Christ "accomplishing" (and thereby bringing to completion) the promises and prophecies (typology, ceremonial law, etc.), which is how I understood Carlos' interpretation. If that is not what Carlos meant, then I don't grasp the nuance by which he is distinguishing himself from Bahnsen's precising definition.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"] Christ was going far beyond "affirmation", i.e., He was first re-establishing the moral law (not civil as Bahsen would have us believe), i.e., confirming the perpetuity of the moral law but much more establishing Himself as the perfect "Law-doer"; as the second Adam and representative of those for whom He came to redeem. Thus, as Matthew shows in his recording of Christ's teachings, He sets forth the depth and spirituality of the moral law in contradistinction to the corrupted teaching of the law as was taught by the Pharisees and the tradition that was handed down to them over many generations. </font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>I agree in substance with most of that. You know about one difference and I won't elaborate on it out of respect for your previous request not to bring up that topic. As far as Christ establishing Himself as the perfect "Law-doer", of course I have no problems with that theologically speaking, but I only see this passage as contributing to that indirectly and not explicitly. Thus, I see the text primarily in terms of your first and third point, that Christ confirms the perpetuity of the moral law, setting forth its depth and spirituality in contradistinction to the distorted teachings of the Pharisees.<br><br>Sincerely in Christ,<br><br>~Jason<br>