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Someone said, "Fallen man is Totally or Utterly depraved. In other words, he CANNOT be worse. Everything without exception that fallen man does is sin in they eyes of God. Fallen man is a corrupt tree bringing forth nothing but corrupt fruit. This is contrary to the teaching by the well known Calvinists who say man is NOT as bad as he can be. They are WRONG. If everything fallen man does is sin, then he can’t be worse. The compromising Calvinist does not realize the doctrine is about ROOT and not FRUIT."
This seems to be saying that the primary manifestation of sin is not in heinous acts, such as murder, etc, but in self-righteousness which is an act of the heart.
HOWEVER
This view does not take into account the fact that God is omnipotent and has ordained all that happens. He puts boundaries or limits to man's depravity and does not allow him to be UTTERLY depraved otherwise there would be complete chaos.
This topic can be confusing so clarity is welcomed.
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ATulipNotADaisy
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