The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Totally or Utterly

After reading your response, I cannot help but be direct and even blunt. YOUR sins could ever transcend the efficacy of Christ's sacrifice. The sacrifice He was sent to do and most willingly did was grounded SOLELY on God's infinite love and will to do so in behalf of those He determined to save out of the fallen human race. The sacrifice/atonement was decreed from eternity and totally repudiates your illogical statement, which you use to justify your refusal to repent and believe upon Him: "I do not ask God to save me. I did, many times. I no longer do. Why? Because of what it would cost Him. How can I claim to love Him if I would ask Him to bear the punishment, not merely for the sins of all of His people, but mine, which might well outweigh the entire sum of theirs combined?" The Apostle Paul made the claim long before you that he was the chief of sinners. So, you are self-deceived to claim that your sins are more than all the sins of those for whom Christ died!! Is that supposed to make you appear deeply humble beyond any man who ever lived? Do you therefore believe that the omniscient GOD had no clue of the sinfulness, the depravity that was owned by everyone ever conceived? It was HE who chose fallen men to be redeemed, not the righteous who boast that they have no need of redemption.

Another silly statement you make in your last paragraph was: "Limited/Particular Atonement does not stop me from wishing, praying, and working for the salvation of others, albeit not nearly so much nor so well as i ought." Are you serious? Have you not read:
Psalms 66:18 (KJV) 18 "If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear [me]:"
Proverbs 15:29 (KJV) 29 "The LORD [is] far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous."
John 9:31 (KJV) 31 "Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth."
So, do you REALLY think that your prayers have any efficacy whatsoever with God if you believe you are eternally damned; one of the Reprobate?

Here is what GOD says about salvation through faith in the LORD Christ:

God's mercy and grace is ONLY found in Christ. If you do not desire to be reconciled to God through Christ, then you have a moral/spiritual problem which you alone own. IF you really desire to be reconciled to God then you are commanded to repent and believe on Christ.
John 5:40 (KJV) 40 "And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life."
John 6:37 (KJV) "37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."
John 6:39-40 (KJV) 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."

So tell me, what legitimate excuse do you actually have to not repent and believe since God has set forth His Son as the Redeemer who is able to save ALL who come to Him in truth? To deny this truth is to accuse God of being a liar. :rolleyes1: