Tom, yeah, natural law. The binding extent to which God’s preserving grace restrains men (to not be as bad as they otherwise would as in Noah’s day). If God doesn’t restrain sin, especially outside of the faithful Church, things will get worse. I don’t see any attempts to Christianize the state thwarting these realities.

I’m sure this is sobering if we apply to the Canadian context, but I think these are biblical and theologically based realities.

Also, Tom, at the end of the day, your friend is promoting a Social gospel, no matter how orthodox it sounds. It is a social agenda. It is socially driven and socially motivated. It is a social project, absent of the gospel.

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