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Re: New heavens and new earth [Re: Tom] #46984
Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
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As a side note, what if you hate doing yard work.


Do you think that our new bodies will be subject to the curse?



Tom, you take my statement too seriously. I was just having fun with that statement, the curse was nowhere on my radar. Christians are under no condemnation, so the curse does not pertain to us eternally.


John Chaney

"having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith . . ." Colossians 2:7
Re: New heavens and new earth [Re: John_C] #46985
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I am glad to hear that, but the way you said that I didn't see anything (perhaps I missed it?) to idicate that you were not serious.

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Re: New heavens and new earth [Re: Hitch] #46987
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Originally Posted by Hitch
The quote from the prophet;

17For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

18But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

19And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

20There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

The context and v20 directly rule out eternity. I think literalism has as good a place here as it does in J 11;26.

The two gratest moments in history were the Fall and the Resurrection. Which brings up the question; Which of these is the greater?


This is my own view but its hardly original, if memory serves its close to Boettner's and Gentry's.


Hitch, we still live in a world in which children die in infancy (indeed, many before they are even born) & very few people yet live to be 100 years old. How does this description apply to the current state of affairs between the resurrection & the final judgement? It obviously does not. We do not yet live in the new heavens & earth.


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Re: New heavens and new earth [Re: Pilgrim] #47271
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AMEN!!!

My pastor has often said that, if this cursed earth is this beautiful, what's the redeemed one going to look like!!!!


True godliness is a sincere feeling which loves God as Father as much as it fears and reverences Him as Lord, embraces His righteousness, and dreads offending Him worse than death~ Calvin
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