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No NRA Members Need Apply
by Pilgrim. Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:55 PM
Joni Eriksson Tada
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Neo-Orthodox
by John_C. Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:06 PM
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Yesterday at 08:55 PM
John,

1. I didn't write the article. grin
2. I personally would never promote nor endorse the NRA "as the barometer for conservatism".
3. The NRA is, however, a strong advocate for the freedoms guaranteed by our founding fathers in regard to the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution...AS IT WAS INTENDED.
4. I never vote for any candidate on the basis of one issue. But I do reject every candidate who does not endorse all conservative Constitutional and social issues. For example, if a candidate endorsed a strong Pro-Life position but was anti-Second Amendment, he/she wouldn't get my vote and vice versa.
5. The Left considers the NRA as an arch enemy because they stand upon the Second Amendment... AS IT WAS INTENDED which guarantees every citizen the right to own and bear arms with very few exceptions. The Supreme Court has ruled in like manner in such cases that deal with singling out various types of firearms and/or accessories for them, e.g., the infamous AR-15 rifle (platform), which Justice Scolia made very clear that such a firearm is clearly protected by the Second Amendment, etc., etc. The "progressive Left", aka: Socialist/Communist Left desires to disarm citizens in this country in order to have free reign to implement its Socialist/Communist agenda. Without disarming the populace first, there is little to no possibility they could succeed. This has been the modus operandi in every country throughout the world used by dictators, Communists and Socialists would strip people of their freedoms and control them without fear of opposition.
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Yesterday at 07:16 PM
There is no doubt words like "gay" have been changed from there original meaning. The word "gay" used to mean "happy". However, although we may not like it, when we hear the word "gay"; most people have no idea of the original meaning of the word.
The English language is a language that has changed over even my own generation, let alone in the past 500 years.
You say that the word "gender" has no meaning in the English language. However that simply is not true, check any English dictionary and you will notice the word "gender" does indeed have meaning and that meaning is determined by the context.
I am 59 years old and until you brought this subject up, I have always understood the word gender to mean male or female.
I would however have a problem with the words "gender neutral".
Bottom line to me is not the language, but the issue itself. I would rather not nitpick things like this.
Tom
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Theology Discussion Forum
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:06 PM
It seems as if the term neo-orthodox can refer to many beliefs on viewing Christianity. For instance, Reinhold Niebuhr is said to be a neo-orthodox theologian. Did he completely distance himself from the gospel and biblical teaching? Who are the current day neo-orthodox and have for the most part they have stopped calling themselves as neo-orthodox?
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Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:06 PM
Originally Posted by John_C
In discussion Bible translations, I was attempting in making the point on the unreliability of the NIV by stating that the NIV always use the word atone instead of propitiation. In counteracting my use of 'atone/propitiation', not making a statement on the unreliability of the NIV; it was said that the two words are synonyms. I remember hearing quite a while ago that the using propitiation is important in biblical understanding.Is propitiation one of those words that has a different understanding in theology, than it does in general?

Atone/Atonement is an inclusive term which refers to the whole aspect of making one right with God.

There are 4 main aspects and a few minor ones (not to be construed as less important) of atonement:

  • Redemption
  • Reconciliation
  • Sacrifice
  • Propitiation

Propitiation has a two-fold prospective: a) to appease the wrath of one offended, b) the removal of that which has caused the offense. In biblical/theological terms, The Lord Christ paid the penalty for the sins of the elect, thus appeasing the wrath of God and judgment upon them. The Greek noun is hilasterion and the verb is hilaskomi (cf. Rom 3:25; 1Joh 2:2; 4:10)
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