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Like many Conservative Christians I take what I hear in the news with a grain of salt. It is for that reason that I am trying to find out the truth behind Trump pardoning sheriff Joe Arpaio.
The way they are reporting it all over the news is basically Sheriff Joe Arpaio deliberately defied a court order and was convicted on that basis.
It seems that a week does not go by that something controversial happens with Donald Trump. Many of his own administration have either quite or been fired by him.
It is getting to be that I am even hearing Conservative Christians distancing themselves from anything Trump related.

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Sheriff Joe is a man of the law vilified for doing his job without compromise.... Trump has been good, the GOP is the problem

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Tom, the GOP does not serve the interests of the citizenry.... Both parties seek global redesign and America is a big part of the reconfiguration

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Not saying this is true or not, however what I have been able to find out. The courts determined that what Sheriff Joe was doing was illegal. Yet Sheriff Joe, disregarded this and said he will continue to do the job as he always has. Which, at least on the surface anyway, sounds like he is putting himself above the law.
Can you comment on that?

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Originally Posted by Tom
Not saying this is true or not, however what I have been able to find out. The courts determined that what Sheriff Joe was doing was illegal. Yet Sheriff Joe, disregarded this and said he will continue to do the job as he always has. Which, at least on the surface anyway, sounds like he is putting himself above the law.
Can you comment on that?

Yes, it's not true.... He was targeted for racial profiling Latinos..... Translation: he was doing his job by cracking down on illegal entry ..... Which does not fit the globalist agenda....hence, he's vilified for doing his job..... Don't have to believe my understanding of it....but I feel pretty confident about it

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How can I get what you just said confirmed? I hate hearing what the liberal media says concerning these things. However, if/when someone starts spreading this kind of stuff, I don't want to just say, "it is not true" without proof. Usually, I just ignore those kind of things because I do not have proof.

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Agreed...... Sheriff Joe Arpaio was simply following FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW(s) and doing a good job too. Certain states refuse to follow those laws and openly thumb their noses at anyone who would try and make them obey them. Many of the Federal Judges currently in office were appointed by Obama and are Socialists. The 9th Circus, ummmm Circuit is most infamous for ruling to block President Trump's immigration ban of anyone from 6 designated terrorist countries, which ban was completely legal. The short of this is, Joe Arpaio was prosecuted for doing what he swore to do when he was made Sheriff..... obey and protect according to the US Constitution first and foremost.

Tom: I don't know where you get your information from regarding these things?? But it seems you are getting it from some of your "friends" or from forums that lean to the Left, or from the "Main Street Media", those infamous purveyors of Fake News. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of those who voted for Trump are solidly supportive of his agenda to uphold the Constitution of the United States at any cost allowed by law. AJ is correct in that the "Establishment" in Washington, D.C, in both parties are attempting to overthrow Donald J. Trump and all conservatives in this country in order to maintain their power to control things and to get rich. The Leftists control most of the media; TV, radio and Internet which unfortunately has become like a Banana Republic which spews out propaganda, lies, etc. in order to further their agenda to rid America of the Republic and Democracy and establish a Socialist/Communist government.

IF you are really interested in American politics, you need to get your information from reliable sources, e.g., Michelle Malkin, Mark Levin, CRTV, Rush Limbaugh, Tucker Carlson, and a few others. All these individuals tell it the way it is and for the most part are 'straight shooters' and stand firmly upon the principles of the founding fathers and the Constitution.


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I am getting my information from the news that is being reported. Like I said, I take any news that the LIberal news media says with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, it is fooling a lot of people.
Thanks for the names you gave me, to check things out.
Tom

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I am getting my information from the news that is being reported. Like I said, I take any news that the LIberal news media says with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, it is fooling a lot of people.

But the "Drive-by Media" isn't fooling Trump supporters. It is only fooling fools who are either too naive to think that what they hear/see on the news could be anything but true, or they crave news reports that attack those they disagree with. What is true with all of them is that the god of this world has blinded their eyes to the truth and King of all the universe has ordained it to be so as temporal judgment upon our godless country. Canada is likewise under the just wrath of God. Look who He has put into the office of Prime Minister...... Justin Trudeau!! [Linked Image]


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I am getting my information from the news that is being reported. Like I said, I take any news that the LIberal news media says with a grain of salt.


FNN: Fake News Network The major news networks are influenced heavily by the far left who are seeking to twist, distort the Truth and ultimately topple the constitutional US as we know it under Trump. They want to become socialistic like Canada. The lies they spew are despicable and are best ignored. They are all liars, seeking to destroy our hope for ridding the gov't of this shameful dark tyranny which has grown to incredible proportions. You need to not only "take with a grain of salt" you need to throw the whole thing away for it is corrupt news and there is no truth to it. Be very careful what you take in as news.


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chestnutmare, that is easier said than done, when one is bombarded with this stuff constantly. Also, Trump doesn't help his own cause, the way he responds with his own words plays right into the hands of liberals.
Tom

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Here is an old link to a James White video, that is basically my view on the whole subject. It is obviously pre-election. However, I have not had anything change my mind concerning Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l6nn4w9WFc

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Obama had his DOJ to disregard immigration laws that was on the books. The Sheriff continued abiding by the written law thus the DOJ brought charges against him for going against Obama's executive edicts on the matter. He was sentence to jail by a judge, and he did not receive a jury trial.

He is a political prisoner. Yes, we do have those in the USA.


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And the Constitution forbids the creation of a religion by the State. In this country, people are free to worship whatever religion they choose. And, likewise, the religions have no authority over the State. There is no Constitutional regulation of marriage in this country. There is a Supreme Court ruling, which is immoral to be sure, concerning marriage. But there is no law in this country that forbids an unbiblical divorce of the President to be. Instead of going on and on to show that James White's argument is totally irrelevant, I'll take the easy way out and simply state as I have several times in the past... Donald J. Trump is a pagan. Thus he is incontrovertibly a sinner through and through, as are all men by nature. He is weak on social issues. But he was and still is the best man for the office of President of the United States compared to those who were running against him. To me, his being elected shows a 'stay of execution' for the United States for its idolatry, blasphemy, immorality, hedonism, etc., etc. ad nauseam.

Remember well, that even the celebrated good kings in the Old Testament were guilty of immorality, e.g., David was an adulterer/murderer. Solomon, David's son, was even worse when it came to women. He had 700 wives and 300 concubines. Compared to Solomon regarding marital infidelity, and lust, Trump is a saint. In this country we elect someone who is most qualified to follow and enforce the laws enumerated in the Constitution of the United States. If they have a propensity to also follow the moral law of the Bible, that is most assuredly a plus. If James White decided that neither candidate was worthy of his vote, then so be it. The Constitution certainly allows that choice and even more so, the laws that govern elections allow someone to even write in a person who isn't even on the ballot. If every professed Christian followed James White's scruples then no conservative man of any stripe would ever be elected and the United States would dissolve overnight and become a totalitarian Communist state.

I voted for Trump, who I do not like as a man, because I believed and continue to believe he is what this country needs to stem the tide of its downward slide into Socialism. The Church has been and always will be persecuted by whatever political party gets into office any place in the world. The TRUE CHURCH is antithetical to the world and the world is antithetical to the TRUE CHURCH. The issue is for us here in America... who best respects the Constitution and its intent according to the founding fathers.

That's how I see it and I'm sticking with it. tongue

PS... what you think of Trump isn't important, Tom. You live in Canada which is ruled by Justin Trudeau who makes Trump look like a saint by comparison. [Linked Image]


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If there is one thing I dislike about your arguments Pilgrim, it is your bringing up Justin Trudeau when talking about Donald Trump as if to distract away from the subject. I am definitely no fan of Justin Trudeau, nor am a fan of the Liberal party. I could care less if you believe compared to Trudeau, Trump is a saint. I do not think adding things like this helps your arguments, they should stand on their own and usually do.
It reminds me of when I worked in a Elementary School, the Principal used to compliment my work on occasion, but then he would add something like "you are much better than the last guy who did your job." I happened to know the last guy and he is my supervisor; whom I like.
Kind of takes away from the compliment doesn't it?

By the way, why would I care about the USA? Simply because Canada and the USA are our closest neighbours and what happens in the USA effects Canada. No, I can't vote in the USA, but that does not mean I shouldn't care.

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