If I remember correctly , I believe I told Akela what to do with a woggle (?) or was it toggle?<br><br>(that coloured plastic ring that keeps the neck-scarf thing in place).<br><br>Yes, I was (am) a horrble child.<br><br>howard
Kyle, there are other books about the same Masonic roots of the Scout/ Guide movement by other authors.<br><br>When I rediscover them or find some more , I'll let you know . Suffice to say , the masonic roots of Scouting is common knowledge amongst reformed folk here in Blighty I believe. <br><br>I only found that particular book in my local Christian bookshop which only carries about 20,000 books most of which are a waste of good trees IMHO.<br><br>howard
The scout "oath" was called into question as well by the author btw (James 5:12).<br><br>It is the "roots" of the movement in question. If you believe the "phoenix" to be an "eagle" , then you are free to do so. Masonry is very complex and most do not know anything about it .<br><br>Pehaps , as a Scout yourself , you should look into it a bit more ?<br><br>howard
Dear Howard, <br><br>as a former cub scout, scout and venture scout in Blighty, and as someone who is Reformed, I can categorically state I have never previously heard the accusations you raise against scouting. Further, from my experience of scouting I can categorically affirm that I never heard anything resembling in the slightest the supposed origins of scouting symbols that you mention.<br><br>My "sketchy" knowledge of scouting's history is that it has much to do with B-Ps experiences in South Africa. Cub scout symbolism is derivd from The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling, rather than freemasonry. Although B-Ps approach was initially militaristic this greatly cooled after the First World War leaving the emphasis on scouting skills.<br><br>James.
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]So then Marie, Elves , gnomes , pixies , imps ,sprites are REAL to you ??????!!!!!!!<br></font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Of course not!!! The Brownies never mentioned elves, gnomes. pixies, imps, and sprites!<br><br>That's why I said they never mentioned anything pagan or mythological.<br><br>Sorry, I guess Betty Crocker is an American thing. It's a brand of brownie and cake mixes.
True godliness is a sincere feeling which loves God as Father as much as it fears and reverences Him as Lord, embraces His righteousness, and dreads offending Him worse than death~ Calvin
I was both a Brownie and a Girl Scout, and I remember well why the Brownies are called that, and it certainly isn't because the Brownies are encouraged to believe in fairies, etc. It comes from the desire to be unseen servants, rather like the storytime Brownies were. For those who don't know, brownies were little sprites who would come in and do kind things for others without drawing attention to themselves. The Brownie movement was started by Daisy Lowe, who was a friend or relative of Lord Baden-Powell. Not wanting the boys to have all the fun, she began the Girl Scouts. Since this all occurred around the late 1800's, when romanticism ran deep and such stories were so popular, she named the young girls' group the Brownies. Daisy Lowe never intended that little girls be encouraged to believe in the actual existence of Brownies. They were a mascot type thing, and nothing more, an example to follow that was fun for little ones to think about imitating.<br><br>Betty Crocker is a brand name for boxed baking mixes that one bakes at home....brownies, get it? [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin[/img]
