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Pilgrim said:
Tom,

That's all well and good, i.e., that Zacharias, at least in this other man's estimation, delivered a sound description of man's depravity. However, what is missing, at least in the quote(s) you have provided, is what Zacharias said concerning how a man can overcome this depravity. As you well know, this is one area where most go astray. The biblical answer of course, is IF God should show a depraved sinner mercy and by His grace regenerate Him so that he/she is enabled to desire Christ, then and then will they believe upon Him Who was and is the incarnate God. This radical transformation of nature is of course, a SOVEREIGN work of God which a sinner cannot initiate in any way, shape or form, e.g., believing upon Christ.

This teaching is that which marks out the Reformed Faith from all others. As for what Ravi Zacharias actually said at that conference, only those who were there or heard recordings of his talk actually know. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

In His Grace,

But doesn't God help those who help themselves? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />

Seriously, I think most Arminians would say that they agree with total depravity, {totally in fact}.<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> It's just a shame they don't understand what it means!<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Blessings,

Ron