Joe k,

Well, again you have offered basically nothing to refute the traditional view which the vast majority of orthodox Calvinists have held and of which I too hold tenaciously from my study of the Scriptures. I can only conclude that you either don't have the time to exegete all or any of the myriad passages I have offered, you have no interest in doing so, or you simply cannot. Further, you have not offered any cogent refutation of the myriad reasons I have given in defense of the traditional/biblical view either. But whatever the reason is for you not bring forth a biblical, rational defense of "Eternal Justification", I see no possibility of me considering casting off that which cannot be refuted.

FYI, I spent a very unhappy period of my life studying at a hyper-Calvinist seminary and was exposed to this and other errors in great depth. I found their defense of there views to be more than wanting, for they were based more on deductions rather than sound exegesis of Scripture. That is why I was hoping YOU could offer something more substantive than a few potpourri cut & paste quotes from unmentioned authors. [Linked Image]

Undoubtedly, you have read this too, but I am moved to offer it nonetheless: Justification by Faith Alone: The Relation of Faith to Justification, by Dr. Joel Beeke.

In His Grace,


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