The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Predestination

Only ONE individual here has stated such and he has been summarily opposed and refuted by everyone else. What we hold is that one who IS saved will in most all cases come to the place where predestination is embraced and loved. Secondly, what is this off-topic subject of being to love freely? The truth is no one will nor can they love God by nature for the very reason that they are not "free" to do so. For by nature, all men love the darkness and hate the light. (Jh 3:19) Men hate God and all that is truly good from birth because they have a sin nature. (Eph 4:17-19) The Lord Christ taught that only by being born from above by the sovereign work of the Holy Spirit can one even begin to love and be free. (Jh 3:3, 5; 8:31, 32, 36; cf. Isa 61:1; Acts 26:18; 2Tim 2:25, 26)

But isn't "predestination" the topic at hand? In fact, it was you who started the thread. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/giggle.gif" alt="" /> This being so, of course one should expect to find a discussion on that topic. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratch1.gif" alt="" />

There are arguments to be found against the Doctrines of Sovereign Free Grace, aka: TULIP, which by the way came about due to 5 points of doctrine held by men who opposed what the Church had held to be true for centuries. Before the Remonstrants issued their objections/rejection of these long-established and held doctrines, there was no such thing as "TULIP" as an official document, which you can read here: The Synod of Dort. And I have yet to read even one "strong argument" that refutes any of the doctrines known as Calvinism; and I am fairly well read. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

In His grace,