<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Feel free to disagree but you cannot alter my experiences.</font><hr></blockquote><p>Howard, the mistake you are making here is that you are setting your own experience(s) as the bastion of truth and the standard by which all things, at least in this particular area, are to be judged. The fact is that there are some who profess to hold to Arminianism but who in their hearts, are believing biblical truth (Calvinism). Because of the way sin effects individuals as a whole, it is very possible and a reality that men profess something but actually believe something else. This is that one element you seem to have overlooked . . . INCONSISTENCY between the head and the heart. What is true is that [color:red]IF</font color=red> someone truly believes Arminianism in their heart which they also profess with their mouth, then salvation isn't owned by them. But there are people who do profess Arminian doctrine but in reality don't actually believe it; but in practice, their lives betray them and show that their hearts are not in agreement with their words.<br><br>This is why I asked you if it was possible for an individual to be a reprobate and yet profess Calvinism? Surely, you would never posit that everyone who says they hold to biblical Calvinism is saved? Likewise, not everyone who professes Arminianism is unsaved. It's a sticky wicket as to the perception side of things for us humans. It's often very difficult, if not simply impossible to discern another's true spiritual state. What they say is very important to be sure. But it doesn't necessarily indicate what the person actually believes in the heart. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="wink[/img]<br><br>In His Grace,


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