I was not posting to try to defend any particular "ism", sir. It just so happens to be that what I find to be true in the Bible corresponds closely with what is commonly refered to as "calvinism." I hope that you do not believe that just because someone is a "calvinist" that they are giving credit to a man for which God is to be credited. It is not my intention, and I'm sure, though I won't speak directly for anyone else, that it is not the intention of most of the people here to give glory and honor to anyone other than the Lamb of God.<br><br>It is true that men, being sinful, will tend to hold dearly to and sometimes idolize that which they think makes them different from someone else. It is true about calvinists, arminians, campellites, pagans, and even "anti-ism-ists". Though this idolization is sin and cannot be seen as anything else, I think that there is nothing wrong with being associated with one such "ism" if that which the "ism" teaches or claims is defined solely by the holy Word of God. Again, I'll say, that I, along with others that I know personally, do not hold to calvinism because of Calvin, or because the doctrines make us feel good, or because it's fun to be argumentative (for I abhored that which I did not understand till I found it in Scripture), but rather, I hold to it because I have not found any inconsistancy between it and what the Word of God teaches. I seek to give Him glory alone, though I admit to not being perfect.<br><br>In Him,<br>Chris