Originally Posted by JesusFan
I just think that the Lord will and does save sinners who hear the Gospel message...
I have echoed this myriad times to you myself. But again, you don't answer questions and do not interact with the differences we hold to be true. In the case of this statement we are miles apart since I believe in a totally different definition of what the biblical Gospel is vs. your Sandemanian gospel which Paul calls "another gospel" and then adds, "which is not another". In other words, there is only ONE Gospel and anything other than that ONE Gospel is to be totally rejected and those who bring it are "anathema" cursed.

We also are in total disagreement on the nature of faith. I believe that Scripture teaches that true saving faith is fiduciary (cf. Berkhof's section on saving faith in his Systematic Theology), i.e., it involves the whole man; intellect, affections, and will. You have repeatedly said that faith is nothing more than an assent to 3 or 4 statements concerning Christ, His dying for my sins, the resurrection and a saying you are a sinner. This is historically known as "Sandemanianism", aka: "Easy Believism" and sometimes "Decisional Regeneration". There is no content to your so-called gospel and thus there is no object for a sinner to have faith in. There is no salvation available in believing a false gospel, in another Jesus, another Spirit. You have never given one biblical example of a sinner being saved by believing in a false gospel.

Originally Posted by JesusFan
and that once saved, if they heard it from a non calvinist teacher/preacher, the lord would desire them to become wise and grow in the ways of calvinism...
You see Calvinism as the ONLY way to teach and exlain the Gospel, but I see it as being the BEST way...
And here you finally have come out of the closet and confessed that you do not believe in absolute truth. For if Calvinism IS the truth than there can be no other way to teach and explain the Gospel. And anything other than the truth is a lie. Thus, as you have said in so many ways on multiple occasions, you do believe that sinners are saved by believing a false gospel, which again Paul says, there is no other gospel.

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2 Corinthians 13:5 (KJV) "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"


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