Just for the purpose of declaration. and making matters clear, JesusFan. It behooves us to use Scripture for any declaration we make, as we have no basis for any valid point, but the statements of the Bible.. Our Lord said, "ye do err, not knowing the Scripture nor the power of God. "

Is it just myself, or is it fact? I have never seen you post a single Bible verse to back up anythng you have ever stated as divine truth. Hopefully you have, but I missed it. Paul says "Only Scripture is profitabe, since it is God's breathed out Word" II Tim 3:16

Since Scripture settles matters. Would you please cite verses, which teach man is converted without a sense of his sinfulnes of which he himself cannot cure, or remedy. If none seek after God , Rom 3:9,10. How can a man decide which you say becomes the basis of one's salvation, "when He has no will to do so?" Jn l:13, which are born ...yet not of their will to be born?

You make clear, you believe many are saved in churches where the "Gospel is not the message, but a decision one makes about Jesus." So it is either one or the other; can one make a decision and be saved because of that decision?

Which may be a good time to ask you. "do you believe your salvation is based upon a decision you made, and if so, then you are not a Christian, and if not, how can you justify saying, anyone is saved that way."

Anyone on this thread, understands what is meant by "decisional regeneration," which you wrongly argue can produce salvation, and yet later on, they will be taught their wills were not involved.. when they come to a deeper understanding of truth, you advocate.

At some point of honesty, you must face the clear fact...You are really in a blind alley with no way out.

I pray that you will see this.



Last edited by Fred B. Smith; Sat May 06, 2017 4:58 PM.