Originally Posted by JesusFan
I am just finding it very hard to understand how that we must all be calvinist in theology in order to have God save any of us, and also how we hold to calvinism being only way to view the Gospel , as see us as having the best way to view salvation, but not the only way ......
This will be my last communication with you because you are "incommunicado" by your own doing.

1. No one has suggested never mind demanded that a sinner have a comprehensive knowledge of Calvinism before they can be saved. I personally have stated this myriad times to you personally. nono Calvinism is a summary of biblical TRUTH as the Gospel encompasses the basic truths of Calvinism. Since Scripture incontrovertibly teaches that there is ONE Gospel which the Holy Spirit works through, either by hearing or by reading, then those immutable truths MUST BE present in the mind and heart of any sinner whom the Holy Spirit brings to Christ to some measure.

2. God's truth is ABSOLUTE Truth vs. your post-modern truth which is relative. Even a child can comprehend the fact that Calvinism is antithetical to ALL other religions including the various forms of modern Christianity, but particularly semi-Pelagianism. Calvinism is not the "best way to view the Gospel" but the ONLY WAY to view the Gospel since Calvinism IS the Gospel, to which even Spurgeon preached to the masses that came to hear him. Something cannot "be" and "not be" at the same time... but in your view you can have opposing views being compatible. That is sheer nonsense and illogical. igiveup

3. NO ONE is ever saved by agreeing to 3 or 4 statements about Christianity and then making a free-will decision to accept a false Jesus, believing in a false god (idol) which is brought to them in a false gospel. Further, NO ONE is ever saved without first being regenerated (born again) by the Spirit working through the true Gospel Who first brings a heart-felt conviction of sin which removes any self-dependence and self-righteousness of the sinner. True, Spirit-wrought faith is biblically saId to be "fiducia", i.e., it involves the whole man; intellect, affections and will. The plethora of false gospels which most hear today have no ability to bring about the necessary elements of genuine conversion.

4. I may be "narrow" compared to your errant view(s) but Scripture is perspicuous in teaching the same:

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Matthew 7:13-15 (ASV) "Enter ye in by the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby. For narrow is the gate, and straitened the way, that leadeth unto life, and few are they that find it. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves."


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