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Young Catholic said: From what I've always been taught (Protestant and Catholic)The process of Sanctification happens after death- not while we live. Glorification, as I've always understood it will happen after the Rapture when he calls us all home. I don't know where you heard/read that "Sanctification happens after death"  but it certainly is not a doctrine held by historic Christianity (Protestantism). There are two aspects to sanctification: definitive and progressive. The former is legal, i.e., the righteousness of Christ is accredited, imputed to the believer immediately so that he is deemed justified and sanctified, (Zech 3:1-5) having been clothed with the righteousness of Christ. In regard to the former, "definitive", see here: Definitive Sanctification, by Prof. John Murray. For the latter, "progressive", see the list of articles under the heading "Sanctification" see here: Praxis - The Doctrine of the Christian Life. Young Catholic continues: Your point about having to be justified to go to heaven- I'm curious as to your stance of what happens to children who die or people who are disabled mentally. They've still sinned and should go to hell- but if they are unable to understand Christ- does God make an exception? Those "grey areas" were the reasons Catholics created the doctrine of purgatory in the first place. One's age or mental condition is neither something which commends one to God nor hinders one's salvation. Since salvation is by grace alone, by Christ alone, through faith alone; faith being the fruit of regeneration of the Spirit of God, what is impossible with man is possible with God. (Lk 18:27) The Westminster Confession addresses this matter directly where it says: [color:"#0000CC"]The Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter X Of Effectual Calling
III. Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ, through the Spirit,[12] who worketh when, and where, and how he pleaseth:[13] so also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word.[14]
12. Gen. 17:7; Luke 1:15; 18:15-16; Acts 2:39; John 3:3, 5; I John 5:12 13. John 3:8 14. John 16:7-8; I John 5:12; Acts 4:12
ALL those whom God has elected to salvation in Christ are saved by the same operation of the Holy Spirit and the result of that secret and sovereign work. In His grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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