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AJC said:
Straw,

you're head must be spinning and ready to explode with all these back and forths with numerous board participants. You should probably step away for a while.

One more book I would recommend is The Holiness of God by RC Sproul but read the Augustine book first!

As for Adam & Eve and the spiritual death that resulted from the fall - here's some scriptures referenced from the Westminster Confession -


peace to you!

God bless you AJC,

You are right. I am burning the candle at both ends. No matter how fine the Westminster Confession is, I discovered that Luther's German translation of Genesis 2 v 17 really does alter matters for me. I will still argue that it might be in reverse. That Adam and Eve's spiritual death was progressive based on how Romans 1 feeds us, but the truth is that the Hebrew says that Adam and Eve died spiritually immediately and that death, that is physical death was progressive: all in that little phrase.

This article I found pretty insightful and the fact that if Adam and Eve only died spiritually would bring on other Old Earth, New Earth hangups. I favour this from the following article:

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By the way, the Luther translation of MOT TA-MUT is the beautiful
"wirst du des Todes sterben", "unto death you will die"!

Thanks for the Sproul book reference. What was the book by Augustine. I am interested in Scofield as well as Augustine, though I know they do look at Genesis and did look at Genesis quite differently to others.

Shalom, happy digging in God's Book.

btw. Thanks for the verses from the olde creedal statement of the divines. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />

The article I was referring to, was from Isaac Fried of Boston University and he is like me, knows Hebrew but is no way a theologian. The year course I did helped me some. Luther's German is really quite amazing, "wirst du des Todes sterben", "unto death you will die"! nuff sed, off to bed. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by straw; Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:05 PM.