Straw,

Well, what can I say other than the view which you have expressed is solidly semi-Pelagian. The Church has categorically deemed this view as heresy and rejected it from its early attempts to infiltrate the Church. The several articles which I provided the links to are sufficient in themselves to set forth the biblical teaching concerning the Fall and its consequences. There is a plethora of biblical references and quotes in each one of them. So, once again, I commend them to you and encourage you to seriously consider them for both your enlightenment and your soul.

And to show you how far back this controversy has been going on, consider that in 529 A.D., the Church wrote, adopted and published its official stand on this matter in the now well-known document called, The Council of Orange. [Linked Image]

In His grace,


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simul iustus et peccator

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