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Jeanne said: -----
God loves all...but all don't love him. The first poster said..."did Jesus as a man, love his enemies, even those who are non-elect...." That would be the Gentiles. Of course God loves all Gentiles. Israel was 'the elect nation' and God called Jesus 'mine elect' who represented fallen Israel on the Cross. So did he love his enemies....Israel...he sure did! And because of their FALL we Gentiles get mercy! Don't get all caught up in talking about 'the elect' and 'the non-elect', as if God is not a God of Judgment.
----- Jeanne, Your post is a little old, but I just ran across it. I do not think I can agree with many of the things you wrote. First of all, I do not think that "God does love all" in the sense that he loves the elect. In fact, the Bible has many passages that state God is in fact very displeased (to put it mildly) with many. I also do not agree if you are trying to equate the non-elect with Gentiles. While many Gentiles are non-elect, many Jews are too. Nor do I think you are correct when you say God loves all Gentiles. Also, you first say that the Gentiles are Christ's enemies and then that Israel (non-Gentiles) are God's enemies. I think that Biblically, all (Jews and Gentiles) are enemies of God until they have placed their faith in Christ alone. I am not sure it is correct to say that we received mercy because the Jews fell. We receive mercy only because of God's free love and mercy according to His on will. I do agree that sometimes it's easy to get caught up in talking about the elect and non-elect, but these ideas are found in the Bible, so we cannot just toss them out. Note: When I use the word "love" above, I am using the term to denote the special love that God shows toward his elect (see other posts in this thread). John
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