Joe<br><br>Very good post, I agree with you 100%<br><br>But just for the sake of argument, as you probably are aware most Arminians tell us after reading something that, that they would agree that the words "all" and "world" can have different meanings. But the "context" of the passage should always determine the meaning. One has to read too much into the words to take the Calvinist interpretation.<br><br>Of course I disagree with them on that, I don't think that the context disproves the Calvinist understanding at all. But I have yet to make any headway trying to explain what I mean to the person.<br>I was wondering how you would handle that aspect. I want to make sure that it isn't just my way of explaining things that isn't clear.<br><br>Tom