Hi Tom, my response was to address your statement "not to mention they start out with a fallacy right away", which I understood you to refer to the quote you gave "Christ fulfilled the Old Testament law, and the New Testament teaches that Christians should live under the new covenant rather than the old one." I'm just not sure about all the details of NCT, yet in the past I had read some of their writings online. But up front, do you find the 1689 Baptist confession to be so drastically opposed to the First London Confession? I'll admit that at age 80 I've gone through various understandings as I worked at studying my way out of Dispensationalism.

The first powerful book I read was The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination by Loraine Boettner and that was a real kick start out of Dispensational fundamentalism. I'll admit, making such a drastic change in understanding from a prior system one had been taught was for me scary, and unsettling. I purchased Gill's Body of Divinity, A. A. Hodge's Outlines of Theology, R. L. Dabney, Boyce and several others and I guess they all are theological works that embrace Covenant Theology, yet I learned my basic understanding of God's word from them.

I embrace believer's immersion, so when I began to notice that when I'd read such straight forward, clear cut beliefs, based solely on Scripture on most doctrine from the Presbyterians theologians; when it came to baptism, they tended to go into what I think of as theological construction instead of basing a belief on clear statements of Scripture. Over the years I came to view a few verses as being quite emphatic in the statements, and binding for me.

"Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other." (1Cor 4:6, ERV)

"Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world." (Matt 28:19-20, ERV)

"and I fear, lest, as the serpent did beguile Eve in his subtilty, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in the Christ;" (2Cor 11:3, YLT)

I read Gal. 6:15, 16 as teaching the New Covenant believers are a continuation of the Old Covenant believers, both are the people of God. I think of it as David as being king over the Old Covenant believers, in type, and Jesus Christ as the king over us New Covenant believers as well as the Old covenant believers.

I hope I'm not at such a variance from the brethren on here that it puts me out of Christian fellowship. As I mentioned before, having been raised on Scofield footnotes that taught things often totally contradicted by Scripture; I came to shy from man's theological constructions. I know the Trinity is a theological construction in order to explain and defend the clearly stated doctrine of One God who is Three Persons: Father, Son & Holy Spirit, so logic forces me to accept the Trinity. Just as logic forces me to be a believer in double predestination.

BUT, I definitely reject the liberalism and so-called progressivism in the apostate religious groups that your post addressed.


I am a New Covenant believer whose basic study Bible is the KJV but I will read from and study the mainline translations to determine what I believe is the correct original text. I value the expositions from centuries past as from Matthew Poole, John Trapp, John Gill and I even find the Methodist Adam Clarke a help in some areas. I embrace TULIP and am 'mildly' post-mil from a gospel perspective.