Hello RonD and thanks for bringing up what you wrote. I remember when I was a new Christian back in '73' (that's 1973 and not 1873 by the way <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/giggle.gif" alt="" />) that I really thought I had my theological constructs all lined up in a row pretty nicely. My how I've changed from that day. God is leading you and I onward into the truth but He doesn't do it all at once or it would be just too much for us to handle. That being said, I hope you know that I know I don't know everying <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratch1.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif" alt="" /> I am still in flux. God isn't finished with me yet. I'm not the protestant pope...yet! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" />
I wrote before: Did not Adam say "This is now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" intimating he is flesh and thus since the flesh is not able to please God and we see that Adam did not please God when the test came that this therefore shows that I could be correct?
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Zoe, As I already noted, the quick answer to this is that if Adam was flesh upon being created as you say, then prior to his outward disobedience to God he would have already been fallen. In fact, he would have been created fallen. Do you really want to say this?
Dear friend, I need some sola Scriptura for your reply. Could you please give a scripture that says that "Adam fell"?
In 1Cor.15:45 it states that [color:"FF0000"]"Adam became a living soul"[/color] (that happened exactly when God breathed into Adam...and that he was "soulish" which means his being was that which is predominated by things pertaining to the senses. Christ, being the second Adam was Spiritual which is one who is predominated by things pertaining to spirit.
Adam did not become soulish the day he sinned. He was created soulish. If he was perfect like Christ he would not have sinned when the test came.
Adam was created flesh. He didn't become flesh the day he sinned. [color:"FF0000"]"Those who are in flesh cannot please God."[/color] Adam did not sin until he ate the fruit for that was the only command he could break (Thou shalt not eat...." Once that command was broken it was then that Adam sinned. He missed the mark. God was the one that planted the tree in the very midst of the garden. God created the serpent. God created the woman flesh and soulish. God created Adam flesh and soulish. God could have planted the tree way out of the way. He could have kept the serpent away. He could have kept the woman from the serpent. He could have done all sorts of things. Since He did not we must come to the conclusion that He wanted these things to occur so that man could be saved from sin and death which Adam would bring into the world. The fact that [color:"FF0000"]"Christ was slain before the foundation of the world"[/color] shows that God already had it all planned out. Adam nor Eve could do otherwise. But God has to be holy and show mankind what sinning does in that it brings death and alienation so that in the end they can experience life and fellowship and love with God due to the death of the most wonderful Saviour in the entire universe.
It was the tree of the knowledge of good AND evil. They have to know evil so they can know good.
