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I guess you either haven't really read Murray's book, Redemption, Accomplished and Applied, or you aren't able to comprehend what he wrote. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" /> In the first part of the book, Murray right establishes the judicial aspect of the atonement, i.e., that Christ met ALL the demands required in the law, which thus satisfied the justice of God. In so doing, ALL for whom Christ died are thus released from both the demands of the law and the punishment due them for transgressions of that law. Since Christ's atonement was substitutionary in nature, the sentence passed upon Christ was accepted vicariously and the punishment received in behalf of those whom He died for. So again, that which was held against those for whom Christ died was totally rectified on the cross.

On the other hand, this accomplished redemption needs to be applied to the elect; those whom the Father gave to the Son to redeem. And this Christ does in the sending forth of His Spirit Who supplies the means by which the benefits of the atonement are apprehended. The faith which acts as the means by which that which is accomplished is then applied (justification) is again, one of the manifold benefits merited by Christ in His atonement and which no man has by nature.

Your claim is sheer hyperbole and has no basis in fact. For example, John Calvin held unabashedly to "Definite Atonement" as any honest reading of his writings will show. The overwhelming majority of Reformers, Puritans, etc., held to what is set forth in detail in the Second Head of Doctrine of the Canons of Dordt.

Answering this rhetorical question would serve no purpose since you claim to already know the answer. But obviously, you aren't able to grasp it. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/igiveup.gif" alt="" />

In His Grace,