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Who does the Father give to the Son? Those whom he unconditionally elected to salvation without any responsibility on their part? No. Those whom the Father gives are identified as the "everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him" (v. 40). Notice the condition: everyone who looks and believes. Contrast this with verse 36. So, those whom the Father does not give to the Son, are those who see Jesus, and yet do not believe in him (cf. v. 36). There is absolutely no indication in this passage that they are denied eternal life because they were not predestined to believe.

yes, God gives Christ those who (insert work here), a condition in man. Sorry, I uphold Total Depravity. I am going to ask you one more time, nicely, to quit building straw-men. Nobody believes your last sentence, except those who do not understand calvinism.

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1. The Father draws and enables all men to come unto Christ.

We have repeatedly asked you to exegete any scripture showing this.......you have not. I'll ask again, in case you missed the other ten requests. Could you, please, exegete any passage that says Jesus died for ALL sins of ALL people. Could you also show that Jesus death was not a vicarious sacrifice and yet still saves?

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2. Everyone who listens and learns from the Father & looks and believes in the Son will come unto Christ.

The only ones capable are those regenerated unto faith. prior to this, man is sinful, dead, etc.

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3. All of these ones will the Father give to the Son.

Which ones? The ones that believed? Is that the condition man adds? is that the condition God looked for when He chose to elect? Are you admitting God knowingly created people He knew would burn in hell? Could you exegete John 6:44 please?

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4. All of these ones will come unto Christ and receive eternal life.
5. All of these ones will be raised up at the last day.

Redundant repetition of #3.


God bless,

william