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[color:"blue"]Each new denomination comes into being over the failure of the previous model. What may conform to the will of God today may be apostate tomorrow. We've seen this happen time and time again in Church history. Isn't this a result of our sinful human nature? Can any "denomination" claim to be the best? If so, by what measurement?

I agree, but, we need to ask ourselves why these have failed (yes, human depravity, but lets break this down further) and how to BETTER overcome those failures. One of the predominate things in any Church would need to be its god-centered eldership/leadership. Proper leadership can keep a church on the right track, as well as proper teachers, proper government, proper discipline, et. al.

IMHO the "church" is in poor shape overall. This is not to say there is not some good, but there is much to [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/flee.gif" alt="flee" title="flee[/img] from. Thus, how do we break all this down and re-examine the present state of denominations to what we would deem to be a biblical paradigm?

    1. what is the biblical paradigm of the church (the standards and checks and balances of biblical eldership, proper teaching, proper missions, et. al.)?
    2. how do we get the church to this state...of course, the Holy Spirit, but how do we act as participants therein?[/LIST] How does it get fixed? What is your biblical idea of the "perfect" church this side of Heaven, and how do we get there?

    P.S. IMHO, two of the greatest failures of the church today is its lack of prayer and proper theology. I believe these are two of the reasons why we are where we are at today.


Reformed and Always Reforming,