criley,<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]your breath calling me an Arminian, a born again child of God cannot lose their salvation</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>But you are one. You are just inconsistent. Many today hold same view that you do. I would describe them as A 4 point arminian who believes in eternal security, such as Dave Hunt, Norman Geisler, etc. <br><br>You say "It[Bible] means just what it says, and says just what it means".<br>Hence, what does Romans 9:6-24 mean sir? Instead of espousing your "free-will" theory, why don't you use your own motto above and apply it to the Romans passage? It's been my experience that those who say such things don't even apply it themselves. How about John 6:37-45? <br><br>Also, does the bible use word "ALL" as in "all without exception" in EVERYCASE? Is that my understanding of your position?<br><br>in Christ,<br>Carlos

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